bruce,

What? "Have a nice day? No shit-sucker comments or anything like that?
OK, maybe you are willing to take to heart Keith's comments/suggestion/
advice/instructions to clean things up a bit around here and avoid the
childish nonsense.

I will be most happy to comply as well and will address you and others
in the manner I am addressed. You have a pleasant day as well bruce. I
will continue to use the F-word primarily as an adjective and verb,
but will drop the usage of "lad" as some can construe it as demeaning,
dismissive or condescending. As a black friend of mine says "don't
start no mess won't be no mess".

On Jul 13, 9:53 am, bruce majors <[email protected]> wrote:
> I was posting a reply to a long thread. You were both in it.
> Have a nice day!
>
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Hollywood 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > bruce,
>
> > I don't care. If you have a problem with something Frederick has said
> > I suggest yolu take it up with Fred. Why are you telling me?
>
> > You don't see a lot of things. How is that my problem? Didn't fucking
> > ask you what you "saw" in my post, asked you to point out any false or
> > illogical statements. Piss off.
>
> > On Jul 13, 9:37 am, bruce majors <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Holly the post before yours from Fred clearly stated that Republicans ran
> > > ads against clean coal technology
> > > When in fact Green Democrat groups did all through last fall, claiming
> > there
> > > was no such technology
>
> > > I see absolutely no substantive content in your post below
>
> > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Hollywood <[email protected]
> > >wrote:
>
> > > > bruce,
>
> > > > Did you not read the part where I mentioned the so-called leaders of
> > > > BOTH parties have been momumental fuck-ups concerning this issue for
> > > > decades and decades? Maybe if we all stopped hysterically screaming
> > > > "well YOUR party is more of a fuck-up than MY party" we might fucking
> > > > get somewhere.
>
> > > > One technology may produce CLEANER coal than another, that's about it.
> > > > Your are stuck, trapped by your own propaganda and labels. I HAVE been
> > > > "saying worthwhile things" about energy. You so dull-witted and
> > > > limited to believe that fossil fuel produced energy is the ONLY
> > > > energy? The very definition of energy?
>
> > > > Be so kind as to point out any falsehoods in my post, any illogical
> > > > statements.
>
> > > > On Jul 13, 5:11 am, bruce majors <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > The commercials run against clean coal were mainly run by
> > environmental
> > > > > groups from the left wing of the Democratic Party, who claim that
> > there
> > > > is
> > > > > no such thing as a clean coal technology, and that all coal is always
> > > > dirty
> > > > > and should be outlawed
> > > > > Indeed Obama and Biden at variouspoints in the campaign could not
> > both
> > > > stay
> > > > > on message, one saying all coalis bad and another claiming there was
> > a
> > > > clean
> > > > > coal technology, as Fred thinks.
>
> > > > > I will be interested to see if you two can actually say anything
> > > > worthwhile
> > > > > about energy.  In general most Democrats don't seem to be able to.
> > You
> > > > > have no idea about production and how economies work in general,
> > about
> > > > how
> > > > > bread arrives in your grocery store.  At only gets worse as the topic
> > > > > becomes more complicated
>
> > > > > On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Hollywood <
> > [email protected]
> > > > >wrote:
>
> > > > > > KIT,
>
> > > > > > Jesus Christ, must we go over all of this yet again? Our political
> > > > > > "leaders' of BOTH parties have been complete, self-serving morons
> > > > > > concerning energy policy and the approach to alternative fuels to
> > > > > > carbon based fuels for decades now.
>
> > > > > > BIG hint, do you remember the OPEC oil embargo of 1973, over 35
> > > > > > fucking years ago? What did all our illustrious leaders say? You
> > don't
> > > > > > remember all the impassioned speeches, from BOTH party's "leaders"
> > > > > > about how "Americans will never be held hostage by "foreign oil"
> > ever
> > > > > > again"? How about the promises to devote as much money and
> > "American
> > > > > > know-how" as needed to sovle this issue? No we probably can't solve
> > > > > > the problem in 3 to 5 years. What if we had began in earnest 35
> > > > > > fucking years ago?
>
> > > > > > For Christ's Sake, Henry Ford and Rudolph Deisel fully intended for
> > > > > > their engines to run on vegtable based oil or ethyl alcohol 100
> > years
> > > > > > ago. Henry Ford built a car out of help plant fiber and run on hemp
> > > > > > seed oil in 1941.
> > > > > > Anything, from plastics, to fertiziler, to paint to fuel for cars &
> > > > > > trucks, currently made from the fossil fuel normally called oil can
> > be
> > > > > > made from hemp seed oil. Everything currently made from wood can be
> > > > > > made using the fiber from the hemp plant. The Constituion was
> > printed
> > > > > > on paper made from hemp. Ever heard the expression "he was hung
> > with a
> > > > > > good hemp rope"? We've only been aware of this for 100 years or so.
>
> > > > > > And that is Just ONE little plant, the hemp plant. I could go on
> > and
> > > > > > on and on. But I've done it many times before and some people just
> > > > > > don't want to listen. Our political leaders haven't been doing any
> > > > > > leading on this since before I was born, gutless wonders that they
> > > > > > are. No will, no guts, no imagination whatsoever.
>
> > > > > > On Jul 12, 2:48 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > Fred,
>
> > > > > > > I recall no television commercials where the GOP were opposed to
> > > > clean
> > > > > > coal
> > > > > > > technology.  Just the opposite is true.  I recall there being a
> > split
> > > > > > > between Joe Biden and President Obama;  Biden favoring clean coal
> > > > > > > technology, as opposed to his running mate.
>
> > > > > > > There should be no partisan issues here, and yes, the Democrats
> > made
> > > > it a
> > > > > > > partisan issue.
>
> > > > > > > If you think that we are going to come up with some alternative
> > > > energy
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > will replace the combustion engine in the next three to five
> > years,
> > > > (or
> > > > > > ten
> > > > > > > years) then you are not nearly as saavy as I thought you were.
> > Oil
> > > > is
> > > > > > > requisite for our society, and we need it!  It is a matter of
> > > > national
> > > > > > > security for our Nation to function, from the food that you eat,
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > > > shrink wrap that covers your underwear that you buy at K-Mart,
> > oil is
> > > > a
> > > > > > > prerequisite.  There are no air farm packages manufactured, there
> > are
> > > > no
> > > > > > > nuclear fueled automobiles, and to date, there is no hydrogen
> > powered
> > > > or
> > > > > > > water powered facilities that make tools, equipment, asphalt, or
> > the
> > > > > > > thousands of other items that we depend upon for petroleum in
> > this
> > > > > > Nation.
>
> > > > > > > You are turning a blind eye if you suggest that there is more
> > than
> > > > one
> > > > > > > answer here, there isn't.  Our Nation needs a comprehensive
> > energy
> > > > policy
> > > > > > > and plan, of which the Republican Party has placed forth, and the
> > > > > > socialists
> > > > > > > are fighting tooth and nail in their attempt at class warfare and
> > > > their
> > > > > > > Anti-American agenda.
>
> > > > > > > To suggest that we should be a part of the Kyoto Treaty, which
> > limits
> > > > our
> > > > > > > ability to produce, but doesn't limit emerging Nation-States like
> > > > China,
> > > > > > > India, Thailand, Brazil, or any other third world Nation-State is
> > > > > > > Anti-American.  It is laughable, and just misplaced.
>
> > > > > > > I encourage you to read, study, and look for what has been
> > proposed,
> > > > and
> > > > > > > then, once you realize that you, and the rest of the Democrat
> > > > > > constituents
> > > > > > > have been sold a bill of goods, get on the phone with your
> > > > Congressman
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > demand that they support a comprehensive energy plan that
> > includes
> > > > the
> > > > > > > expansion for exploring and drilling for more oil, as well as a
> > > > concerted
> > > > > > > attempt at developing new energy technologies, like hydrogen.
>
> > > > > > > There would be no partisan debate if folks like you would educate
> > > > > > yourself
> > > > > > > and start looking at the consequences of what the Democrat
> > Party's
> > > > plan
> > > > > > is,
> > > > > > > and what their real agenda is.....
>
> > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Hollywood <
> > > > [email protected]
> > > > > > >wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > KIT,
>
> > > > > > > > Your simply beautiful man, a piece of work. Here's your
> > position
> > > > > > > > basically, with most of the bullshit stripped away.
> > > > > > > > "There won't be no "partisan rifts", just so long as you do
> > things
> > > > our
> > > > > > > > way and go get all uppity by having opinions that differ from
> > > > ours".
> > > > > > > > Oh yeah, and the simple act of disagreeing with us makes you
> > > > "social-
> > > > > > > > elitist anti-Americans".
>
> > > > > > > > You remind me a lot of my first wife. Everything would have
> > been
> > > > fine
> > > > > > > > had I learned to shut the fuck up and just done everything her
> > way.
> > > > > > > > THAT was thew ENTIRE problem. "Sniff".... I miss that bitch so
> > much
> > > > > > > > I'm almost as miserable as when she was here..  :-)
>
> > > > > > > > On Jul 12, 10:57 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Fred,
>
> > > > > > > > > How ridiculous!  If there was a partisan rift, it was caused
> > by
> > > > those
> > > > > > far
> > > > > > > > > left socialists that belong to the Democrat Party!  There was
> > > > nothing
> > > > > > > > > partisan about this issue, until such time as the socialists
> > did
> > > > > > > > everything
> > > > > > > > > that they could do, to block the exploration and drilling for
> > oil
> > > > in
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > around our Nation!  The Democrats have blocked any type of
> > > > > > comprehensive
> > > > > > > >  > energy plan that encompasses development of Hydrogen, clean
> > > > coal,
> > > > > > > > nuclear
> > > > > > > > > power, and once again, the expanded drilling for more
> > > > hydrocarbons!
> > > > > >  This
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > flat out Un-American, and the purpose is sinister!  First,
>
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