frankg, Any city, state or federal govt. employee that shows up to take my home from me without due cause is going to get shot right between the eyes.
Now, is THAT direct and simple enough for you to understand? On Aug 5, 12:31 am, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > I have no idea but then, that's not what I said. > > The point I made was; > > Government reaches into my pocket to help buy itself a majority shares > in GM. I don't benefit from this and I'm sure you'd say "life isn't > fair" > Government reaches into my pocket to help hand out up to $4500 to > people who own 'clunkers'. I don't benefit from this and have to pay > full price for a car. You say "life isn't fair" > Government reaches into my pocket to help hand out TAP money to > college students. My daughter doesn't qualify and have to pay her full > tuition out of pocket. I'm sure you'd say "life isn't fair". (this > was a new point, I was on a roll). > > So I throw at you an admittedly inflated but definitely consistent > with the theme scenario; > > Government steps in and takes away your home to help fund low income > housing. You don't qualify so must pay full price for a new home. I > say "life isn't fair". > > Do you agree that it's all just a matter of life being unfair or would > you feel compelled to rise up and stop what government was doing? > > On Aug 4, 11:37 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Frankg, > > > Who's having cars taken away from them by the govt.? > > > On Aug 4, 5:58 pm, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hollywood, > > > > I too learned that lesson at an early age, but there are limits to my > > > acceptance. I'm willing to bet that if the government decided they > > > were going to step in and take away your home you would not simply > > > stand by and think "damn, this is rather unfair.... but OK". > > > > On Aug 4, 6:30 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > frankg.. > > > > My late father once told me that life is not always fair. i was simply > > > > crushed by that notion. Of course i was only six years old at the > > > > time. At age 60 I've learned a level of acceptance. I'd like to > > > > suggest you do the same. > > > > > On Aug 4, 5:26 pm, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Hollywood, > > > > > > So the buyer who trades in a 'clunker' wins; the auto dealers get more > > > > > business and win; car manufacturers and their employees win; the auto > > > > > suppliers and their employee win; everybody wins….. except me. > > > > > > I don't have a clunker that qualifies, so as usual, I qualify to pay > > > > > for a government program, but I don't qualify to receive from it. > > > > > > I'm also thinking there's something fundamentally wrong when the > > > > > government assumes majority control of a company via my tax dollars, > > > > > and then drives that company's sales up by giving more of my tax > > > > > dollars to others so they can purchase products from the company the > > > > > government just 'bought'. > > > > > > On Aug 4, 4:01 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > dick, > > > > > > > What happens when car dealers can sell more cars than they would > > > > > > have > > > > > > w/o the "clunker" program? They keep their doors open and move > > > > > > inventory. > > > > > > What happens when car dealers move more inventory? Maybe car > > > > > > manufacturers can stay open and/or nit have to lay off people. > > > > > > What happens when car manufacturers stay open and/or keep up > > > > > > production? The thousands of companies that supply these car > > > > > > manufacturers mabybe stay open and/or don't have to lay off more > > > > > > people. > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 1:55 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > What can be parted out? They put sodium silicate in the block > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > destroys the mechanicals totally. You might get some body parts > > > > > > > but no > > > > > > > engine parts. The answer is the US taxpayer takes it in the ass > > > > > > > on both > > > > > > > sides of the deal at once. Aren't you glad the vote last fall > > > > > > > went the > > > > > > > way it did. The country is in the best of hands, so they say. > > > > > > > > Mark wrote: > > > > > > > > Will the government owned(?) gas guzzlers that are traded in > > > > > > > > actually > > > > > > > > be crushed or will they be sold out of country at a profit ?? > > > > > > > > > If they are crushed who gets the salvage money, if they are > > > > > > > > partsed out who gets the dough, if they are sold who gets that > > > > > > > > money... or does the US taxpayer simply take it in the ass on > > > > > > > > both > > > > > > > > sides of the deal once again. > > > > > > > > > Any of the three represents substantial cash. > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Sage2 <[email protected] > > > > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Doc, > > > > > > > > > You and VT should take the advice of Senator Schumer > > > > > > > > ( D-NY ) > > > > > > > > who said of the cash for clunkers program " don't fix what > > > > > > > > ain't broke > > > > > > > > " . Health Care ain't broken , it just needs a little > > > > > > > > adjustment, but > > > > > > > > guys like Obama and his ilk want to crush it ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 1:00 pm, DOC828NDF <[email protected] > > > > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hmm.... I would love to agree with you, but the > > > > > > > > Republicans may be > > > > > > > > > onto something when they say "what's the rush"... I mean, > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > example... What if we were to rush into a war without > > > > > > > > thinking it > > > > > > > > > through? No diplomacy, and no planning... What if > > > > > > > > something goes > > > > > > > > wrong > > > > > > > > > and its not as easy as we initially thought? Do we really > > > > > > > > have aan > > > > > > > > > exit strategy? We need to take some time to think this > > > > > > > > thing > > > > > > > > through. > > > > > > > > > After all, its not like anyone's dying for healthcare > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 3:58 pm, VT Sean Lewis > > > > > > > > <[email protected] > > > > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Health Care Reform is NEEDED NOW! > > > > > > > > > > The Republican party is becoming the party of hatred > > > > > > > > and the > > > > > > > > > > destruction of the American dream. > > > > > > > > > > > Sean Lewis > > > > > > > > > > August 3, 2009 > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Minimal basic coverage for the unemployed and > > > > > > > > uninsured. > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Preventative care to lower future costs > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Restructure Medicare and Medicaid so they don't go > > > > > > > > bankrupt. > > > > > > > > > > > Who could possibly be against this reform? > > > > > > > > > > > Republicans! > > > > > > > > > > > Republicans had control of the last 8 years of the > > > > > > > > > > US political system, with Bush having veto > > > > > > > > > > power for all eight and the GOP control of the > > > > > > > > > > Congress for 6 years. The result was the almost > > > > > > > > > > complete destruction of the US economy. > > > > > > > > > > > The country was on the brink of complete collapse > > > > > > > > > > the last quarter of the Bush Administration. An > > > > > > > > > > Administration and party that was in complete > > > > > > > > > > denial there was a problem with the economy. > > > > > > > > > > > It was with the last minute infusion of over $1 Trillion > > > > > > > > > > in a single quarter that saved the country from another > > > > > > > > > > Depression type collapse. > > > > > > > > > > > When economic pollicies almost end in complete > > > > > > > > > > collapse, in my book that means FAILURE! Why > > > > > > > > > > take advice from people who almost detroyed the > > > > > > > > > > very thing America needed to stay strong? > > > > > > > > > > > The effects are still being felt 3 quarters later, > > > > > > > > however > > > > > > > > > > we have steered away from the edge by NEW Democratic > > > > > > > > > > Leadership. > > > > > > > > > > > There is no longer talk of the US facing economic > > > > > > > > collapse, > > > > > > > > > > in fact there is talk of a stock market BULL rally. > > > > > > > > > > > Yet Republicans are using everything in their political > > > > > > > > > > arsenal to stop the Democrats and the Country itself > > > > > > > > > > from succeeding. > > > > > > > > > > > The lunatic fringe of the GOP are using lies, scare > > > > > > > > tactics, > > > > > > > > > > hatred and race baiting to focus the attention of the > > > > > > > > country > > > > > > > > > > away from healing and recovery to more of the same of > > > > > > > > the last > > > > > > > > > > 8 years. Division, strife, class warfare and most > > > > > > > > recently > > > > > > > > > > racism. > > > > > > > > > > > The latest obstruction to US recovery is healthcare > > > > > > > > reform. > > > > > > > > > > > Under the Bush Administration more people have entered > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > uninsured rolls, the costs associated with the Social > > > > > > > > Programs > > > > > > > > > > of Medicare, Medicaid have risen unchecked and even > > > > > > > > increased > > > > > > > > > > due to the one 'FIX' Republicans attempted, the Medicare > > > > > > > > Prescription > > > > > > > > > > Drug program that did not help anyone who was not > > > > > > > > insured and > > > > > > > > > > cost $850 Billion a year at it's inception, this figure > > > > > > > > > > will climb as the Baby boomers retire all to give > > > > > > > > Viagra to the > > > > > > > > > > pension > > > > > > > > > > crowd. > > > > > > > > > > > The Republicans rather than fixing the healthcare > > > > > > > > system actually > > > > > > > > > > have hurried up it's demise. 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