which polls are you talking about? They must not include Republican poll numbers,
On Jan 11, 10:32 am, Bruce Majors <[email protected]> wrote: > polls would indicate that know one takes you or your leader or your media > seriously > > you are ticks and it is time for you to be picked off and burnt > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 10:28 AM, VT Sean Lewis > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Oh Please, you fools are reaching and making fools of yourselves. > > No one takes these crazy fringe nuts seriously, but you keep it > > up, makes the 9/11 conspirators look sane. > > > On Jan 11, 9:52 am, Bruce Majors <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Let’s not Forget: Bill Clinton was the first “Birther” > > > ON GOOD MORNING AMERICA, AUGUST 4TH, 2008, QUESTIONED OBAMA'S > > ELIGIBILITY*by > > > John Charlton* > > > > (Jan. 11, 2010) — Let's not forget that the first "Birther" of note, was > > > Bill Clinton. "Birther" is the derogatory appellation used by Obama > > > supporters to ridicule those who ask why Obama won't show his birth > > > certificate. > > > > Late last night, The Post & Email published the results of recent > > > investigation < > >http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/01/10/red-flags-overlooked/> of > > > the issue, by a citizen journalist, which explain that the Hawaii > > Department > > > of Health knows Obama's alleged birth certificate (displayed on the > > Internet > > > as an electronic image of a Certification of Live Birth) is a forgery. > > > > In this context, it should be noted that Bill Clinton was apparently > > aware > > > of the forgery as early as Obama's birthday in 2008. > > > He made these comments on Good Morning America. You can view the > > > video here< > >http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/05/an-insightful-note-from-a...> > > > . > > > > The comment was mentioned by the Associated Press, in an unsigned > > > report< > >http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-08-04-clinton...> > > > filed > > > the same day: > > > > "I never was mad at Sen. Obama," the former president said. "I think > > > everybody's got a right to run for president who qualifies under the > > > Constitution. And I'd be the last person to begrudge anybody their > > > ambition." > > > > Evidently no one at the AP was willing to take the heat for even > > repeating > > > the comment. But one political scientist > > > explained< > >http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/05/an-insightful-note-from-a...> > > > what > > > Clinton meant by his statement: > > > > If you notice, at the beginning of the video, Bill makes a comment about > > > Obama being held to a different standard than others who have run for > > > president, but he also said (around the 44 second mark): “That everybody > > has > > > a right to run for president *as long as they’re qualified under the > > > Constitution*” (emphasis mine). > > > > Here’s the thing – I have followed Bill’s political career for a long > > time > > > (and I have studied it closely because I am a political scientist) and > > *he > > > did NOT say this accidentally. This is a message to TexasDarlin’ (I am > > sure > > > he knows all about her posts and her reports) to keep pressing in on the > > > citizenship/birth certificate issue.* > > > > NOTE: That is NOT what Bill Clinton said. We’re just reading between the > > > lines, perhaps hopefully. > > > > Though I can probably never prove this (and Bill would likely deny it, if > > he > > > were ever confronted with it), I know that Bill was trying to say – “keep > > > going!” > > > > TexasDarlin was a blog from Texas, published by a female supporter of > > > Hillary Clinton. The blog has been temporarily revived on the Internet in > > > support of Scott Brown's candidacy; however, the blog posts no longer > > exists > > > on the web. > > > > In response to Clinton's comment, the obvious conclusion was being drawn > > > within hours of Clinton's comment: "Is Obama qualified under the > > > constitution?", asked JohnF, a platinum member, at > > > CommonGroundsPolitics.net< > >http://www.commongroundpolitics.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=22378>, > > > at 3 PM that afternoon. > > > > The qualifications required by a presidential Candidate are stated in > > > the original > > > text< > >http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html> of > > > the U.S. Constitution, in Article II, section i, clause 5: > > > > No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United > > States, > > > at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to > > the > > > Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office > > who > > > shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been > > fourteen > > > Years a Resident within the United States. > > > > Certainly Bill Clinton was not disputing that Obama was at least 35 years > > > old! > > > > And certainly he was not disputing that Obama had been a resident of the > > > United States since 1994! > > > > So the only thing left, is the natural born citizenship issue. And that > > > would mean that Clinton was reminding us that to be a natural born > > citizen > > > one must be born > > > > 1) On U.S. soil > > > > 2) of a father who is a U.S. Citizen, and > > > > 3) of a mother who is a U.S. Citizen, > > > > 4) each of which 3 criteria must be true at the moment of birth > > > > For more information about the natural born citizenship requirement, see > > The > > > Post & Email's article on the 4 Supreme Court > > > Cases< > >http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/10/18/4-supreme-court-cases-define-n...> > > > which > > > have defined what this term means, following what Emmerich de Vattel > > wrote > > > in his treatise, The Law of Nations. > > > > Few dispute that Obama's mother was not a U.S. Citizen. Though there is > > > speculation< > >http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/01/05/who%e2%80%99s-your-daddy-who%e.. > > .>about > > > who she was, especially among Hillary supporters. > > > > Few doubt that Obama's father was Barack Obama Senior, a British subject; > > > and it has been conclusively > > > shown< > >http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/24/british-law-declares-obama-a-b...> > > > that > > > if Obama's birth story is true, that he is presently a British subject, > > > still. > > > > And many wonder if Obama was in fact born in Kenya, especially after > > > an eye-witness > > > says< > >http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/03/obama-in-1980-said-he-was-born...> > > > that > > > is what Obama claimed in 1980. > > > > The disclosure of Obama's original vital > > > records< > >http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/01/04/hawaii-petition-campaign-launc...> > > > will > > > alone settle these doubts and clarify for all time, the issue of Obama's > > > eligibility. 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