No, I am not. On 10/20/10, Jonathan Ashley <[email protected]> wrote: > Of course you're dodging the question. > > It's not like I was asking you for a 15-page dissertation on your > beliefs. I simply asked you to chose between two brief descriptions of > two types of governments. > > On 10/20/2010 10:24 AM, Tommy News wrote: >> I am not dodging the question. >> >> >> I said that it is a dumb and baited question and I stand buy that >> statement. >> I believe in Democracy. I am an American. >> >> On 10/20/10, Jonathan Ashley<[email protected]> wrote: >>> Why are you dodging the question, Tommy? >>> >>> You are subscribed to a political forum. How is asking which of two >>> systems of government you think we should follow being silly? >>> >>> The fact that you understand it is a baited question leads me to believe >>> you know you are a socialist. You're just afraid to admit it. >>> >>> Or, perhaps - since you push all the collectivism crap on us - you >>> prefer being called a collectivist. >>> >>> *Collectivist*, n. An advocate of collectivism. -- a. Relating to, >>> or characteristic of, collectivism.* >>> * >>> >>> *Collectivism*, n. The doctrine that land and capital should be >>> owned by society collectively or as a whole; communism. >>> >>> >>> On 10/20/2010 10:07 AM, Tommy News wrote: >>>> Why would you even ask such a silly, baited, and officiously offensive >>>> question? >>>> >>>> I am not a Marxist, Socialist, or Communist. >>>> >>>> Centrist Liberals, Democrats, and President Obama are not either. >>>> >>>> On 10/20/10, Jonathan Ashley<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Should have read: >>>>> >>>>> Tommy, >>>>>> Which one of the following systems of government do you believe we >>>>>> should follow? >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. A system in which the means of production and distribution >>>>>> are >>>>>> privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate >>>>>> to >>>>>> the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free >>>>>> market. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. A system of social organization in which the means of >>>>>> producing >>>>>> and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized >>>>>> government that often plans and controls the economy. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 10/20/2010 9:36 AM, Tommy News wrote: >>>>>>> It appears that you do not know what Marxism is, Keith, as you >>>>>>> continually and falsely call Democrats, Centrist liberals, >>>>>>> Progressives, and President Obama Marxists, which they are not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That is why I sent this piece, to enlighten you, if that is possible. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Liberals and Democrats are NOT Marxists, Socialists, or Communists. >>>>>>> Using these false slurs over and over again is offensive and >>>>>>> repetitive. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I believe that those who slander and disrespect the President are >>>>>>> anti-American. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10/20/10, Keith In Tampa<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> Those who don't comprehend or understand what Marxism, Socialism, >>>>>>>> Capitalism, etc., mean, and somehow believe that it is "hate speech" >>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>> calling an individual a "Socialist"; because he advocates a >>>>>>>> socialistic >>>>>>>> political and economic system over a capitalistic, free market >>>>>>>> economy, >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> ignorant. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't mean to say that they are stupid....Far from it. Actually, >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> have a >>>>>>>> lot of respect for these that are ignorant, or Anti-American. They >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> dangerous to our Nation. I have come to the conclusion that these >>>>>>>> folks >>>>>>>> fall into one of two categories: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (A) *e.g.;* Most of them are ill informed and not well read. They >>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>> keep up with current events, other than to watch liberal, biased >>>>>>>> mainstream >>>>>>>> media, or read and follow far left slanted web sites, never taking >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>> to comprehend why or how any specific situation or came to be, or >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> root >>>>>>>> cause, genesis or motivation of any particular issue. They tend to >>>>>>>> believe >>>>>>>> that they are the only ones that are compassionate, failing to >>>>>>>> realize >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> it is statistically proven in fact, that those who are conservative >>>>>>>> contribute far more money& resources to charitable causes. >>>>>>>> Further, >>>>>>>> (and >>>>>>>> just as important!) these same individuals don't have a lot of >>>>>>>> knowledge >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> our history; they fail to understand or comprehend the principals >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> tenets >>>>>>>> that made the United States the greatest Nation-State in the World, >>>>>>>> bar >>>>>>>> none. In general, these people reject the notion that our founding >>>>>>>> fathers >>>>>>>> were influenced by Christian principals and tenets, but they do >>>>>>>> understand >>>>>>>> enough history that they would very much like to revise this one >>>>>>>> important >>>>>>>> aspect. Thus their lack of understanding and reasoning; or, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (B) They are literally Anti-Americans, and they want to see the >>>>>>>> United >>>>>>>> States become equal to or consistent with a third world or fourth >>>>>>>> world >>>>>>>> Nation-State. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There is literally no other option. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The point being, is that ALL of these folks are hypocritical, and >>>>>>>> filled >>>>>>>> with hate. When confronted with truth, logic, or just basic facts, >>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>> can resort to is slinging out hate filled smear, and the typical far >>>>>>>> left, >>>>>>>> Socialist-Elitist talking points that have been generated by the >>>>>>>> George >>>>>>>> Soros' funded foundations, media organizations and social networks. >>>>>>>> All >>>>>>>> they can do, is attack the messenger. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Tommy News<[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Thiose who use words as clubs are misguided bullies. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>>>>> For options& help >>>>>>>> seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>>>>>> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >>>>>>>> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> *Your Remedy Is In The Courts Jurisdictionary® >>>>>> <http://www.jurisdictionary.com?refercode=CG0004>* >>>>>> >>>>>> *I Refuse To Comply With The Unconstitutional Demands Of The Federal >>>>>> Government* >>>>>> http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html >>>>>> >>>>>> *Government is a disease masquerading as its own cure. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Government is only as strong as those who allow themselves to be >>>>>> governed are weak.* >>>>>> >>>>>> *"The 'art' of politics is diverting attention from what's really >>>>>> happening. What >>>>>> separates politicians from other criminal organizations is superior >>>>>> public relations." >>>>>> - Marc Stevens >>>>>> >>>>>> "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free it expects something that >>>>>> cannot be." >>>>>> - Thomas Jefferson**** >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>>> For options& help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>>>> >>>>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>>>> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >>>>>> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >>>>>> Your personal email. Anytime, anywhere. >>>>>> Ridiculously affordable at $19.95. No contracts. >>>>>> http://www.getpeek.com/lavabit.html >>>>>> <%20http://www.getpeek.com/lavabit.html> >>>>> -- >>>>> *Your Remedy Is In The Courts Jurisdictionary® >>>>> <http://www.jurisdictionary.com?refercode=CG0004>* >>>>> >>>>> *I Refuse To Comply With The Unconstitutional Demands Of The Federal >>>>> Government* >>>>> http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html >>>>> >>>>> *Government is a disease masquerading as its own cure. >>>>> >>>>> *Government is only as strong as those who allow themselves to be >>>>> governed are weak.* >>>>> >>>>> *"The 'art' of politics is diverting attention from what's really >>>>> happening. What >>>>> separates politicians from other criminal organizations is superior >>>>> public relations." >>>>> - Marc Stevens >>>>> >>>>> "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free it expects something that >>>>> cannot be." >>>>> - Thomas Jefferson**** >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>> For options& help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>>> >>>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>>> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >>>>> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >>> -- >>> *Your Remedy Is In The Courts Jurisdictionary® >>> <http://www.jurisdictionary.com?refercode=CG0004>* >>> >>> *I Refuse To Comply With The Unconstitutional Demands Of The Federal >>> Government* >>> http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html >>> >>> *Government is a disease masquerading as its own cure. >>> >>> *Government is only as strong as those who allow themselves to be >>> governed are weak.* >>> >>> *"The 'art' of politics is diverting attention from what's really >>> happening. What >>> separates politicians from other criminal organizations is superior >>> public relations." >>> - Marc Stevens >>> >>> "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free it expects something that >>> cannot be." >>> - Thomas Jefferson**** >>> >>> -- >>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>> For options& help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>> >>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >>> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >> > > -- > *Your Remedy Is In The Courts Jurisdictionary® > <http://www.jurisdictionary.com?refercode=CG0004>* > > *I Refuse To Comply With The Unconstitutional Demands Of The Federal > Government* > http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html > > *Government is a disease masquerading as its own cure. > > *Government is only as strong as those who allow themselves to be > governed are weak.* > > *"The 'art' of politics is diverting attention from what's really > happening. What > separates politicians from other criminal organizations is superior > public relations." > - Marc Stevens > > "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free it expects something that > cannot be." > - Thomas Jefferson**** > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
-- Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. Have a great day, Tommy -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
