But you realize that we live in a democratic republican form of government don't you Keith?
On 10/20/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > But you realize that we live in a republican form of government don't you > Tom? We don't live in a democracy in the literal sense. > > > > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I am not dodging the question. >> >> >> I said that it is a dumb and baited question and I stand buy that >> statement. >> I believe in Democracy. I am an American. >> >> On 10/20/10, Jonathan Ashley <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Why are you dodging the question, Tommy? >> > >> > You are subscribed to a political forum. How is asking which of two >> > systems of government you think we should follow being silly? >> > >> > The fact that you understand it is a baited question leads me to believe >> > you know you are a socialist. You're just afraid to admit it. >> > >> > Or, perhaps - since you push all the collectivism crap on us - you >> > prefer being called a collectivist. >> > >> > *Collectivist*, n. An advocate of collectivism. -- a. Relating to, >> > or characteristic of, collectivism.* >> > * >> > >> > *Collectivism*, n. The doctrine that land and capital should be >> > owned by society collectively or as a whole; communism. >> > >> > >> > On 10/20/2010 10:07 AM, Tommy News wrote: >> >> Why would you even ask such a silly, baited, and officiously offensive >> >> question? >> >> >> >> I am not a Marxist, Socialist, or Communist. >> >> >> >> Centrist Liberals, Democrats, and President Obama are not either. >> >> >> >> On 10/20/10, Jonathan Ashley<[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Should have read: >> >>> >> >>> Tommy, >> >>>> Which one of the following systems of government do you believe we >> >>>> should follow? >> >>>> >> >>>> 1. A system in which the means of production and distribution >> >>>> are >> >>>> privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate >> to >> >>>> the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free >> >>>> market. >> >>>> >> >>>> 2. A system of social organization in which the means of >> producing >> >>>> and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized >> >>>> government that often plans and controls the economy. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On 10/20/2010 9:36 AM, Tommy News wrote: >> >>>>> It appears that you do not know what Marxism is, Keith, as you >> >>>>> continually and falsely call Democrats, Centrist liberals, >> >>>>> Progressives, and President Obama Marxists, which they are not. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> That is why I sent this piece, to enlighten you, if that is >> >>>>> possible. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Liberals and Democrats are NOT Marxists, Socialists, or Communists. >> >>>>> Using these false slurs over and over again is offensive and >> >>>>> repetitive. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I believe that those who slander and disrespect the President are >> >>>>> anti-American. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On 10/20/10, Keith In Tampa<[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>>> Those who don't comprehend or understand what Marxism, Socialism, >> >>>>>> Capitalism, etc., mean, and somehow believe that it is "hate >> >>>>>> speech" >> >>>>>> by >> >>>>>> calling an individual a "Socialist"; because he advocates a >> >>>>>> socialistic >> >>>>>> political and economic system over a capitalistic, free market >> >>>>>> economy, >> >>>>>> are >> >>>>>> ignorant. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I don't mean to say that they are stupid....Far from it. Actually, >> I >> >>>>>> have a >> >>>>>> lot of respect for these that are ignorant, or Anti-American. They >> >>>>>> are >> >>>>>> dangerous to our Nation. I have come to the conclusion that these >> >>>>>> folks >> >>>>>> fall into one of two categories: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> (A) *e.g.;* Most of them are ill informed and not well read. They >> >>>>>> don't >> >>>>>> keep up with current events, other than to watch liberal, biased >> >>>>>> mainstream >> >>>>>> media, or read and follow far left slanted web sites, never taking >> >>>>>> the >> >>>>>> time >> >>>>>> to comprehend why or how any specific situation or came to be, or >> the >> >>>>>> root >> >>>>>> cause, genesis or motivation of any particular issue. They tend to >> >>>>>> believe >> >>>>>> that they are the only ones that are compassionate, failing to >> realize >> >>>>>> that >> >>>>>> it is statistically proven in fact, that those who are conservative >> >>>>>> contribute far more money& resources to charitable causes. >> Further, >> >>>>>> (and >> >>>>>> just as important!) these same individuals don't have a lot of >> >>>>>> knowledge >> >>>>>> of >> >>>>>> our history; they fail to understand or comprehend the principals >> and >> >>>>>> tenets >> >>>>>> that made the United States the greatest Nation-State in the World, >> >>>>>> bar >> >>>>>> none. In general, these people reject the notion that our founding >> >>>>>> fathers >> >>>>>> were influenced by Christian principals and tenets, but they do >> >>>>>> understand >> >>>>>> enough history that they would very much like to revise this one >> >>>>>> important >> >>>>>> aspect. Thus their lack of understanding and reasoning; or, >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> (B) They are literally Anti-Americans, and they want to see the >> >>>>>> United >> >>>>>> States become equal to or consistent with a third world or fourth >> >>>>>> world >> >>>>>> Nation-State. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> There is literally no other option. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> The point being, is that ALL of these folks are hypocritical, and >> >>>>>> filled >> >>>>>> with hate. When confronted with truth, logic, or just basic facts, >> >>>>>> all >> >>>>>> they >> >>>>>> can resort to is slinging out hate filled smear, and the typical >> >>>>>> far >> >>>>>> left, >> >>>>>> Socialist-Elitist talking points that have been generated by the >> >>>>>> George >> >>>>>> Soros' funded foundations, media organizations and social networks. >> >>>>>> All >> >>>>>> they can do, is attack the messenger. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Tommy News<[email protected]> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>> Thiose who use words as clubs are misguided bullies. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> >>>>>> For options& help seehttp:// >> groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> * Visit our other community >> >>>>>> athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> >>>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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