I would like to hear Tom's answer too Jonathan!! I already got my response written out, and I am ready to mash my "send" button!!
The answer to your question Tom, is, "Yes". On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Jonathan Ashley < [email protected]> wrote: > Of course you're dodging the question. > > It's not like I was asking you for a 15-page dissertation on your beliefs. > I simply asked you to chose between two brief descriptions of two types of > governments. > > > On 10/20/2010 10:24 AM, Tommy News wrote: > > I am not dodging the question. > > > I said that it is a dumb and baited question and I stand buy that statement. > I believe in Democracy. I am an American. > > On 10/20/10, Jonathan Ashley <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Why are you dodging the question, Tommy? > > You are subscribed to a political forum. How is asking which of two > systems of government you think we should follow being silly? > > The fact that you understand it is a baited question leads me to believe > you know you are a socialist. You're just afraid to admit it. > > Or, perhaps - since you push all the collectivism crap on us - you > prefer being called a collectivist. > > *Collectivist*, n. An advocate of collectivism. -- a. Relating to, > or characteristic of, collectivism.* > * > > *Collectivism*, n. The doctrine that land and capital should be > owned by society collectively or as a whole; communism. > > > On 10/20/2010 10:07 AM, Tommy News wrote: > > Why would you even ask such a silly, baited, and officiously offensive > question? > > I am not a Marxist, Socialist, or Communist. > > Centrist Liberals, Democrats, and President Obama are not either. > > On 10/20/10, Jonathan Ashley<[email protected]> > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Should have read: > > Tommy, > > Which one of the following systems of government do you believe we > should follow? > > 1. A system in which the means of production and distribution are > privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to > the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free > market. > > 2. A system of social organization in which the means of producing > and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized > government that often plans and controls the economy. > > > On 10/20/2010 9:36 AM, Tommy News wrote: > > It appears that you do not know what Marxism is, Keith, as you > continually and falsely call Democrats, Centrist liberals, > Progressives, and President Obama Marxists, which they are not. > > That is why I sent this piece, to enlighten you, if that is possible. > > Liberals and Democrats are NOT Marxists, Socialists, or Communists. > Using these false slurs over and over again is offensive and > repetitive. > > I believe that those who slander and disrespect the President are > anti-American. > > On 10/20/10, Keith In Tampa<[email protected]> <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Those who don't comprehend or understand what Marxism, Socialism, > Capitalism, etc., mean, and somehow believe that it is "hate speech" > by > calling an individual a "Socialist"; because he advocates a > socialistic > political and economic system over a capitalistic, free market > economy, > are > ignorant. > > I don't mean to say that they are stupid....Far from it. Actually, I > have a > lot of respect for these that are ignorant, or Anti-American. They > are > dangerous to our Nation. I have come to the conclusion that these > folks > fall into one of two categories: > > (A) *e.g.;* Most of them are ill informed and not well read. They > don't > keep up with current events, other than to watch liberal, biased > mainstream > media, or read and follow far left slanted web sites, never taking > the > time > to comprehend why or how any specific situation or came to be, or the > root > cause, genesis or motivation of any particular issue. They tend to > believe > that they are the only ones that are compassionate, failing to realize > that > it is statistically proven in fact, that those who are conservative > contribute far more money& resources to charitable causes. Further, > (and > just as important!) these same individuals don't have a lot of > knowledge > of > our history; they fail to understand or comprehend the principals and > tenets > that made the United States the greatest Nation-State in the World, > bar > none. In general, these people reject the notion that our founding > fathers > were influenced by Christian principals and tenets, but they do > understand > enough history that they would very much like to revise this one > important > aspect. Thus their lack of understanding and reasoning; or, > > (B) They are literally Anti-Americans, and they want to see the > United > States become equal to or consistent with a third world or fourth > world > Nation-State. > > There is literally no other option. > > The point being, is that ALL of these folks are hypocritical, and > filled > with hate. 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