Well, it looks like, perhaps, I found the missing link.  After adding
s25r rules and HELO response verification in main.cf, no spam has
siped through.

I think that mostly it was HELO response verification that did it.
BTW, is there a reason not block emails with incorrect HELO response?

Thanks

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Steve <steeeeev...@gmx.net> wrote:
>
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>> Datum: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:20:04 +0100
>> Von: mouss <mo...@ml.netoyen.net>
>> An: postfix-users@postfix.org
>> Betreff: Re: anti spam measures
>
>> Steve a écrit :
>> > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>> >> Datum: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 23:37:18 +0100
>> >> Von: mouss <mo...@ml.netoyen.net>
>> >> An: postfix users list <postfix-users@postfix.org>
>> >> Betreff: Re: anti spam measures
>> >
>> >> Roman Gelfand a écrit :
>> >>> I am running postfix with anti spam filter (policyd-weight, sqlgrey,
>> >>> grossd, dkim, senderid-milter, dspam) .  With this configuration, I am
>> >>> down to under 10 spams a day.  Looking at my backend server which is
>> >>> exchange 2007, I find that all of the remaining spam messages have
>> >>> spam confidence level of 7 or greater, which implies this is blatant
>> >>> spam.  Is there spam filter software software that works with postfix
>> >>> that can perform checks similar to that of exchange 2007 spam
>> >>> confidence level?
>> >>>
>> >> we can't really tell since we didn't see the messages that made it
>> >> through postfix+friends.
>> >>
>> >> if the messages contained a URI listed at uribl or surbl, then you
>> could
>> >> try using uribl/surbl via milter-link or via spamassassin (via
>> >> amavisd-new).
>> >>
>> >> anyway, You can add spamassassin (via amavisd-new) to your chain and
>> see
>> >>  if it improves your filtering.
>> >>
>> > I am for sure one of the people that should keep his mouth shut since I
>> have a to strong bias but SpamAssassin? Why? He is using DSPAM and if I
>> would purpose him another free solution then only something like CMR114 or
>> OSBF-Lua.
>> >
>>
>> because I don't believe he will improve his filtering by adding more
>> statistical filters (I think: if this was true, he can improve by better
>> training/tuning of dspam).
>>
> Correct.
>
>
>> In contrsat, adding a finely tuned heuristic
>> filter will certainly improve his results.
>>
> True.
>
>
>> one example: Justin Mason anti-fraud rules (JM_SOUGHT*) will block fraud
>> mail that you can't block statistically (because you don't get enough of
>> it to train a statistical filter). unless if you are a large ISP/MSP
>> with users who report fraud mail quickly and you train your filter with
>> these reports quickly.
>>
> Or you use other ways to filter them out (not statistically).
>
>
>> other examples include: URIBL rules (granted, you can use milter-link),
>> DNSxL rules applied to Received headers (mail that is "touched" by a
>> host in Spamhaus SBL is unwanted!)...
>>
>> Once again, I said "add spamassassin" not replace dspam. This is because
>> OP wanted to block "more". but adding SA in a way that improves his
>> results is not effort free. which is why I said:
>>
> Right.
>
>
>> >
>> >> at one time, the question becomes: is the additional effort worth the
>> >> pain?
>> >>
>> > Good question.
>>
>> I personally am from the school of access control before content
>> filtering.
>>
> Me too :)
>
>
>> so I don't feel comfortable arguing for SA vs dspam vs
>> foofilter.
>>
> As I wrote before: I am to biased in that topic so I am not going to argue 
> either.
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