yes

On 19.10.18 09:29, Stefan Bauer wrote:
> Thank you. So it makes sense to have all smtpd_recipient_restrictions in
> place, and _only if_ the client passes all checks, clamav or spamasassin
> is having data available to do a check. If the client fails a check,
> clamav/spamasassin have nothing to process. Did i get it correctly? :)
> 
> Stefan
> 
> Am Fr., 19. Okt. 2018 um 09:17 Uhr schrieb Carsten Rosenberg <c...@ncxs.de
> <mailto:c...@ncxs.de>>:
> 
>     Have a look here:
> 
>     https://msg.wikidoc.info/index.php/Milter_operation
> 
>     Milter Protocol starts when a client connects. So you have the open
>     connection to clamav-milter before smtpd_recipient_restrictions is
>     triggered. But ClamAV can't do anything before the content is
>     transfered. So the performance impact should be insignificant.
> 
>     amavis-milter is just a wrapper script from milter to amavis protocol.
>     As long amavis is not dead this is fine.
> 
>     Carsten
> 
> 
>     On 19.10.18 08:59, Stefan Bauer wrote:
>     > Is there documentation available, at which smtp-state a milter is
>     > kicking in?
>     > I don't see a way to define at which state a milter should take
>     action.
>     >
>     > i would lke to make sure that
>     >
>     > smtpd_milters = unix:/clamav/clamav-milter.ctl
>     >
>     > will only get triggered *after *
>     >
>     > smtpd_recipient_restrictions =
>     > reject_non_fqdn_sender,
>     > reject_non_fqdn_recipient,
>     > reject_unknown_sender_domain,
>     > reject_unknown_recipient_domain,
>     >
>     > is checked.
>     >
>     > amavis-milter seems dead.
>     >
>     >
>     > Am Fr., 19. Okt. 2018 um 08:33 Uhr schrieb Carsten Rosenberg
>     <c...@ncxs.de <mailto:c...@ncxs.de>
>     > <mailto:c...@ncxs.de <mailto:c...@ncxs.de>>>:
>     >
>     >     Hi,
>     >
>     >     smtp_milters and restrictions are working at the same time.
>     >     smtpd_recipient_restriction will be evaluated at the same as
>     the Milter
>     >     RCPT stage.
>     >
>     >     So a ClamAV Milter should run at EOM milter stage. Anything
>     else is
>     >     useless ;)
>     >
>     >     And in my opinion quarantine is sooo 2010. Reject (pre-queue) or
>     >     deliver, so it's clear for sender and recipient.
>     >
>     >     Have a look to amavis-milter (+spamassassin+clamav) or even
>     rspamd.
>     >
>     >
>     >     Carsten
>     >
>     >     On 19.10.18 07:15, Stefan Bauer wrote:
>     >     > Thank you for your feedback. Seems like smtpd_milters are
>     also used
>     >     > before any other check_*_access and rbl checks/header checks
>     etc., so
>     >     > it's expensive this way, to pipe every mail through virus scan.
>     >     > I'm just testing if i could plug in clamav by
>     check_policy_service.
>     >     >
>     >     > Am Fr., 19. Okt. 2018 um 05:57 Uhr schrieb Olivier
>     >     > <olivier.nic...@cs.ait.ac.th
>     <mailto:olivier.nic...@cs.ait.ac.th>
>     <mailto:olivier.nic...@cs.ait.ac.th
>     <mailto:olivier.nic...@cs.ait.ac.th>>
>     >     <mailto:olivier.nic...@cs.ait.ac.th
>     <mailto:olivier.nic...@cs.ait.ac.th>
>     >     <mailto:olivier.nic...@cs.ait.ac.th
>     <mailto:olivier.nic...@cs.ait.ac.th>>>>:
>     >     >
>     >     >     Hi,
>     >     >
>     >     >     > I'm building a simple pair of front MX-servers to get
>     rid of our
>     >     >     cisco ironports. For spam and
>     >     >     > virus-scanning i'd like to have spamassassin and
>     clamav doing
>     >     >     pre-filtering during smtp-dialog
>     >     >     > rejecting bad mails and forwarding good mails to internal
>     >     mail-farm.
>     >     >
>     >     >     While for virus you may argue that there is a clear cut
>     >     between clean
>     >     >     and infected message, it is far from being as clear for
>     spam.
>     >     What you
>     >     >     consider spam and would reject may be completly valid for
>     >     another user.
>     >     >
>     >     >     So, rejecting spam during smtp-dialog is risky, that is why
>     >     most resolve
>     >     >     to some sort of quarantine, and that is when amavis
>     comes handy.
>     >     >
>     >     >     Best regards,
>     >     >
>     >     >     Olivier
>     >     >
>     >
> 

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