... omongan kayak gini cuman buang waktu aja tem,..

.. lu ngaku ato tidak, kgak ada pengaruh apa2 buat gw.. kgak untung, kgak rugi..

yg jelas, lu orang yg mau ngelibas islam dan orang islam di milis
ini.. dan dimana-mana lu ngumbar fitnah dan caci maki islam..

sehingga nato dan un yg dikendalikan amrik bisa melegitimate
pembantaian orang islam, wanita dan anak2..

itu aja udah cukup menunjukkan kebejatan lu..

singkat saja:

b e j a t ......! ! ! bejat!!!



On 2/8/12, item abu <item...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hehehe ... udah jelas lu ini tadinya mikir gua sama dgn Bukan Pedanda,
> sekarang ngakunya sengaja ngomong gitu, ga mau ngaku ketololan lu. Terus lu
> nambah kegoblokan lu dgn ga percaya atas omongan gua, bertentangan dgn
> ocehan lu sendiri.
>
> Emang orang Islam itu ga ada yg pintar, semuanya dungu, tanpa kecuali.
>
>
>
> From: safin _blanc <pandan.wangi...@gmail.com>
>>To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
>>Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 8:36 AM
>>Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Women Expose (safin _blanc yang berotak
>> babi...)
>>
>>.. lu yg goblog.. gw memang sengaja supaya lu berdua ngomong jujur..
>>
>>klo lu memang orang berbeda, coba lu kasih biodata lu disini..
>>nama: (kgak perlu asli)
>>umur: (72 taon, kt orang)
>>pkerjaan:
>>alamat: (yg ini cukup negara mana, gw kgak mau lu dibunuh terorist,
>>keenakan lu nanti).
>>
>>itu aja..
>>
>>On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 5:13 AM, item abu <item...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>>
>>>
>>> Goblok, gua bukan Bukan Pedanda.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: safin _blanc <pandan.wangi...@gmail.com>
>>> >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
>>> >Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 12:12 AM
>>> >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Women Expose (safin _blanc yang berotak
>>> babi...)
>>>
>>> >
>>> >..wah gw telat balas tulisan item yg belepotan taik salman rusdi ini...
>>> >.. bukan kgak mau balas, soalnya gw lagi melancong ... capeknya masih
>>> >terasa..
>>> >
>>> >gini tem..
>>> >
>>> >gw kgak silau oleh tulisan pakar organisasi dunia yg didominasi amrik
>>> > sama
>>> >konco2nya yg  ngejelekin islam supaya mrk punya legitimasi ngebantai
>>> > orang
>>> >islam ...... apalagi tulisan yg ngaco seperti yg lu percaya itu..... apa
>>> >perempuan disunat lalu kgak bisa beranak? bahkan bisa mati segala?...
>>> >tulisan pakar organisasi dunia yg ngawur, sama sekali kgak kredibel.....
>>> >kgak perlu ada studi ilmiah utk bilang tulisan mereka ngawur.. kenyataan
>>> di
>>> >dunia nyata sdh jelas bhw statement mereka ngawur..
>>> >
>>> >dan lu percaya sama tulisan mereka? tentu saja lu percaya karena lu
>>> > memang
>>> >bagian dari orang yg mau melibas islam dan orang islam.. dimilis ini ..
>>> and
>>> >beyond..
>>> >
>>> >setiap ada tulisan yg seperti ini lu telen bulat seperti lu telen taik
>>> >salman rusdi.... dan lu kgak punya malu sebarin tulisan konyol penuh
>>> >fitnah.. sama artinya dengan lu tukang fitnah juga...... jelas?
>>> >
>>> >.. ihh...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Bukan Pedanda <bukan.peda...@yahoo.com
>>> >wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> **
>>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> safin _blanc ini jelas berotak babi..
>>> >>
>>> >> Tanpa argumen ilmiah dia bilang kesimpulan pakar organisasi dunia itu
>>> >> "fitnah yg dilakukan orang2 yg mau ngelibas islam "
>>> >>
>>> >> Edan.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, safin _blanc <pandan.wangi558@...>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > .. apa gw bilang? titit lo memang sontoloyo..
>>> >> > .. bantah tuh kalo lu bisa bantah...
>>> >> > .. disertai bukti..
>>> >> >
>>> >> > .. kalo kgak, orang di milis ini akan ketawain lu..
>>> >> > ..
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Female genital mutilation or cutting (FGM/C) is the partial or total
>>> >> > removal of the external genitalia – undertaken for cultural or other
>>> >> > non-medical reasons – often causing severe pain and sometimes
>>> resulting
>>> >> in
>>> >> > prolonged bleeding, infection, infertility and even death.
>>> >> > .. ini fitnah yg dilakukan orang2 yg mau ngelibas islam, sehingga
>>> orang
>>> >> yg
>>> >> > bayar ongkos perang percaya bhw islam memang perlu dibasmi....
>>> >> > .. gw kgak pernah dengar ada cw yg mengalami seperti yg lu jadikan
>>> >> > referensi ini.. kecuali tentu saja rasa sakit. infeksi bisa terjadi
>>> kalo
>>> >> > caranya kgak hygenis, tapi infertility? kematian?.. hah.. kgak tahu
>>> malu
>>> >> > nyebar pitnah....
>>> >> >
>>> >> > .. sunat juga sakit, apa lu kgak sunat?
>>> >> > ..
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:22 AM, Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@
>>> ...>wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > > **
>>> >>
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > safin _blanc yang berotak babi dan berpengetahuan dangkal...
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >
>>> http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?Cr1=health&NewsID=37478&Cr=women
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, safin _blanc <pandan.wangi558@>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > ..ngapain ngurus yg ginian, apa kgak ada kerjaan lain? gw kgak
>>> pernah
>>> >> > > > denger cw sekeliling gw yg complain soal ini.. termasuk bini
>>> >> > > > gw,..
>>> >> > > > ..cw juga kgak usil ngurusin laki2 yg sunat...
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > tp buat lu yg memang mau melibas islam dan orang islam di milis
>>> ini,
>>> >> > > urusan
>>> >> > > > begini aja jadi besar..
>>> >> > > > ato barangkali bini lu kgak puas? klo dia kgak puas berarti
>>> >> > > > titit
>>> lu
>>> >> yg
>>> >> > > > sontoloyo....
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:03 AM, item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > > **
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > > Hehehe... jadi lu sama sekali ga peduli dgn cewek2 yg dipotong
>>> >> itilnya
>>> >> > > > > itu, nurut lu, itu urusan mereka, bukan urusan lu.
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > > From: safin _blanc <pandan.wangi558@>
>>> >> > > > > >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
>>> >> > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 7:24 AM
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > > >Subject: Re: [proletar] Women Expose Secret Genital Cutting
>>> Rite
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > >lu usil kgak ada kerjaan ngurus itil cw.
>>> >> > > > > >itu urusan sesama perempuan..
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > >lu memang tukang fitnah.
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > >gw bilang kenyataan bhw banyak, banyak sekali muslimah yg
>>> >> bahagia..
>>> >> > > > > >lu yg penuh fitnah dalam ngelibas islam dan orang islam di
>>> milis
>>> >> > > ini,...
>>> >> > > > > >yang..gw yakin kgak bahagia..
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > >kasihaaaannn...
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > >On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 5:29 AM, item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > >> **
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > > >>
>>> >> > > > > >>
>>> >> > > > > >> Jadi lu suka ngeliat dan ngedenger cewek tetangga lu
>>> >> > > > > >> ketawa2,
>>> >> > > berarti lu
>>> >> > > > > >> ga ngikutin ajaran Islam yg nindas cewek. Tetangga lu itu
>>> udah
>>> >> > > disunat
>>> >> > > > > >> belum itilnya?
>>> >> > > > > >>
>>> >> > > > > >> Hehehe.... spt yg gua bilang sebelumnya, orang Islam plus
>>> plus
>>> >> itu
>>> >> > > ga
>>> >> > > > > >> peduli sama sekali dgn nasib cewek yg ditindas di negara
>>> syariat
>>> >> > > iblis,
>>> >> > > > > spt
>>> >> > > > > >> cewek yg diperkosa di waktu msh anak2, cewek yg disunat
>>> itilnya,
>>> >> > > cewek
>>> >> > > > > yg
>>> >> > > > > >> disiksa di rumahnya oleh lakinya dsb.
>>> >> > > > > >>
>>> >> > > > > >>
>>> >> > > > > >>
>>> >> > > > > >> From: safin _blanc <pandan.wangi558@>
>>> >> > > > > >> >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
>>> >> > > > > >> >Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 9:19 AM
>>> >> > > > > >> >Subject: Re: [proletar] Women Expose Secret Genital
>>> >> > > > > >> > Cutting
>>> >> Rite
>>> >> > > > > >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >
>>> >> > > > > >> >tetangga gw 8 bersaudara, perempuan semua... udah pada
>>> kawin,
>>> >> dan
>>> >> > > > > >> >berbahagia.. kalo ngumpul ketawa mereka lepas sampai kita
>>> >> > > tetangganya
>>> >> > > > > >> >merasakan kegembiraan mrk.
>>> >> > > > > >> >
>>> >> > > > > >> >gw pernah ikut latihan chen-qi di china... suhu kita
>>> bilang,..
>>> >> > > ngesek
>>> >> > > > > itu
>>> >> > > > > >> >perlu, tp orgasm merupakan pemborosan energi yg besar..
>>> >> > > > > >> >
>>> >> > > > > >> >supaya ingat, si item sinting ini adalah orang yg mau
>>> melibas
>>> >> > > islam dan
>>> >> > > > > >> >orang islam di milis ini...
>>> >> > > > > >> >
>>> >> > > > > >> >
>>> >> > > > > >> >
>>> >>  > > > > >> >On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:11 AM, item abu <itemabu@>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> > > > > >> >
>>> >> > > > > >> >> **
>>> >> > > > > >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> Islam itu emang laknatan lil alamin
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> PAKISTAN-INDIA
>>> >> > > > > >> >> Women Expose Secret Genital Cutting Rite
>>> >> > > > > >> >> By Zofeen Ebrahim
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> KARACHI, Jan 30, 2012 (IPS) - "It was a dark and dingy
>>> room,
>>> >> > > where an
>>> >> > > > > >> >> elderly woman asked me to take off my panties, made me
>>> >> > > > > >> >> sit
>>> >> on a
>>> >> > > low
>>> >> > > > > >> wooden
>>> >> > > > > >> >> stool with my legs parted and then did something…I
>>> screamed
>>> >> out
>>> >> > > in
>>> >> > > > > >> pain,"
>>> >> > > > > >> >> recalls Alefia Mustansir, 40, of her childhood
>>> >> > > > > >> >> experience.
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> Her friend, Sakina Haider, remembers "putting up a good
>>> >> fight"
>>> >> > > before
>>> >> > > > > >> she
>>> >> > > > > >> >> succumbed. "I was told by my grandmother that I was
>>> >> > > > > >> >> being
>>> >> taken
>>> >> > > to
>>> >> > > > > the
>>> >> > > > > >> >> doctor to address burning in the genital area when soap
>>> went
>>> >> > > there
>>> >> > > > > while
>>> >> > > > > >> >> bathing!"
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> Both Haider and Mustansir have refused to have their
>>> >> daughters
>>> >> > > > > undergo
>>> >> > > > > >> >> circumcision or female genital mutilation/cutting
>>> >> > > > > >> >> (FGM/C),
>>> >> the
>>> >> > > > > Dawoodi
>>> >> > > > > >> >> Bohras' best-kept secret until young women from the
>>> community
>>> >> > > first
>>> >> > > > > >> began
>>> >> > > > > >> >> to speak up against it a few years ago.
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> Bohras, a sub-sect of Ismaili Shia Muslims, are a
>>> tight-knit
>>> >> > > > > community,
>>> >> > > > > >> >> with a majority residing in India and Pakistan, and
>>> >> estimated to
>>> >> > > > > number
>>> >> > > > > >> two
>>> >> > > > > >> >> million the world over.
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> An article in the Dec. 12 issue of the popular Indian
>>> weekly
>>> >> > > > > `Outlook'
>>> >> > > > > >> >> says: "Khatna (circumcision) is a tradition the Bohras
>>> trace
>>> >> > > back to
>>> >> > > > > >> their
>>> >> > > > > >> >> origins in (north) Africa, one they continue with
>>> >> > > > > >> >> because
>>> >> they
>>> >> > > see
>>> >> > > > > this
>>> >> > > > > >> as
>>> >> > > > > >> >> an attempt to stay true to their faith."
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> The Outlook article goes on to say that "most Bohra
>>> >> > > > > >> >> women
>>> >> and men
>>> >> > > > > even
>>> >> > > > > >> >> today would rather keep this practice a secret rather
>>> >> > > > > >> >> than
>>> >> > > question a
>>> >> > > > > >> >> custom that is now universally seen as a gross violation
>>> of a
>>> >> > > woman's
>>> >> > > > > >> >> body."
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> The World Health Organisation defines FGM/C as a
>>> >> > > > > >> >> procedure
>>> >> that
>>> >> > > > > >> >> "intentionally alters or injures female genital organs
>>> >> > > > > >> >> for
>>> >> > > > > non-medical
>>> >> > > > > >> >> reasons." FGM/C, as practiced in some African countries,
>>> may
>>> >> > > involve
>>> >> > > > > >> >> removal of the entire clitoris and labia.
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> The practice persists in 28 African countries, as well
>>> >> > > > > >> >> as
>>> in
>>> >> some
>>> >> > > > > Middle
>>> >> > > > > >> >> Eastern countries with varying degrees of cutting or
>>> >> mutilation.
>>> >> > > > > African
>>> >> > > > > >> >> countries that have banned it include Burkina Faso,
>>> Central
>>> >> > > African
>>> >> > > > > >> >> Republic, Djibouti, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Togo, Uganda,
>>> >> > > > > >> >> Kenya
>>> >> and
>>> >> > > Egypt.
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> Bohras insist that their practice is not harmful since
>>> >> > > > > >> >> it
>>> is
>>> >> done
>>> >> > > > > with
>>> >> > > > > >> >> care and moderation. Many justify it as a means to curb
>>> >> > > > > >> >> a
>>> >> woman's
>>> >> > > > > sexual
>>> >> > > > > >> >> drive and keep her chaste.
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> Haider finds that argument "highly problematic" and sees
>>> it
>>> >> as a
>>> >> > > way
>>> >> > > > > of
>>> >> > > > > >> >> controlling women.
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> Dr. Nighat Shah, former president of the Society of
>>> >> > > Obstetricians and
>>> >> > > > > >> >> Gynaecologists in Pakistan, finds it hard to believe
>>> >> > > > > >> >> that
>>> a
>>> >> > > > > community as
>>> >> > > > > >> >> "progressive and educated" as the Bohras carries out
>>> >> > > > > >> >> this
>>> >> > > practice.
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> "Medically speaking," she explained, "a little snip or
>>> clip
>>> >> (of
>>> >> > > the
>>> >> > > > > >> >> clitoris) may not affect childbirth, but it may rob the
>>> >> woman of
>>> >> > > > > sexual
>>> >> > > > > >> >> pleasure. It is a very sensitive tissue."
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> Another gynaecologist and obstetrician, Dr. Shershah
>>> >> > > > > >> >> Syed,
>>> >> finds
>>> >> > > no
>>> >> > > > > >> >> medical benefit to support female circumcision. "I am no
>>> >> > > religious
>>> >> > > > > >> scholar,
>>> >> > > > > >> >> so if a community believes it is an Islamic injunction,
>>> I'd
>>> >> > > suggest
>>> >> > > > > the
>>> >> > > > > >> >> girls should at least be old enough to understand the
>>> reason
>>> >> so
>>> >> > > that
>>> >> > > > > >> they
>>> >> > > > > >> >> can make an informed decision."
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> "Why do women's sexual drives have to be curbed?" Haider
>>> >> asks.
>>> >> > > "Women
>>> >> > > > > >> who
>>> >> > > > > >> >> are not circumcised are not necessarily promiscuous!"
>>> >> > > > > >> >> she
>>> >> says.
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> A young Indian girl belonging to this Muslim sect, who
>>> goes
>>> >> by
>>> >> > > the
>>> >> > > > > name
>>> >> > > > > >> of
>>> >> > > > > >> >> Tasleem, has now found the courage to initiate an online
>>> >> petition
>>> >> > > > > asking
>>> >> > > > > >> >> the community's high priest, Dr. Syedna Mohammad
>>> >> Burhanuddin, to
>>> >> > > have
>>> >> > > > > >> this
>>> >> > > > > >> >> "cruel, inhuman and undemocratic ritual" stopped.
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> The petition addressed to the 96-year-old prelate, who
>>> >> > > > > >> >> is
>>> >> based
>>> >> > > in
>>> >> > > > > the
>>> >> > > > > >> >> western Indian city of Mumbai, states: "Such a barbaric
>>> >> ritual
>>> >> > > has no
>>> >> > > > > >> place
>>> >> > > > > >> >> in a progressive community like the Bohras. So we pray
>>> >> > > > > >> >> to
>>> His
>>> >> > > > > Holiness
>>> >> > > > > >> to
>>> >> > > > > >> >> stop this misogynist ritual." Mustansir and Haider are
>>> >> > > > > >> >> in
>>> a
>>> >> > > minority
>>> >> > > > > >> among
>>> >> > > > > >> >> Bohra women who refuse to accept the practice. Most
>>> >> > > > > >> >> still
>>> get
>>> >> > > their
>>> >> > > > > >> >> daughters circumcised because it is an order from the
>>> >> community's
>>> >> > > > > high
>>> >> > > > > >> >> priest.
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> "I have blind faith in my leader. I believe there must
>>> >> > > > > >> >> be
>>> >> some
>>> >> > > > > goodness
>>> >> > > > > >> in
>>> >> > > > > >> >> this that there is so much insistence," said Zahabia
>>> >> Mohammad,
>>> >> > > 38,
>>> >> > > > > >> mother
>>> >> > > > > >> >> of three circumcised daughters.
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> Mohammad conceded that her own experience was "gross"
>>> >> > > > > >> >> and
>>> >> > > "barbaric",
>>> >> > > > > >> but
>>> >> > > > > >> >> justifies its continuation because "it is done in a very
>>> safe
>>> >> > > manner
>>> >> > > > > >> today
>>> >> > > > > >> >> by doctors."
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> She was present for all of her daughters' circumcisions.
>>> "It
>>> >> > > takes
>>> >> > > > > less
>>> >> > > > > >> >> than five minutes and the procedure is done under local
>>> >> > > anaesthesia.
>>> >> > > > > >> Just a
>>> >> > > > > >> >> very minute bit of the clitoris is clipped off," she
>>> >> > > > > >> >> said.
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> She acknowledged she had little information on the rite
>>> >> except
>>> >> > > what
>>> >> > > > > was
>>> >> > > > > >> >> told her by an aunt "that the foreskin of the clitoris
>>> >> > > > > >> >> is
>>> >> > > unclean and
>>> >> > > > > >> >> circumcision is for the benefit of the women."
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> She also concedes that today, with a deluge of
>>> >> > > > > >> >> information
>>> >> > > > > circulating
>>> >> > > > > >> >> against this practice, it is imperative to equip the
>>> >> community
>>> >> > > with
>>> >> > > > > >> >> information to enable them to make informed decisions.
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> "Not everyone will accept this blindly, not the next
>>> >> generation.
>>> >> > > They
>>> >> > > > > >> will
>>> >> > > > > >> >> question and prod, so it is important to prepare them,"
>>> she
>>> >> says
>>> >> > > of a
>>> >> > > > > >> rite
>>> >> > > > > >> >> that is kept secret from male members of the sect.
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> Tasleem told Outlook that genital cutting happens in all
>>> >> strata
>>> >> > > of
>>> >> > > > > Bohra
>>> >> > > > > >> >> society. "I'd say 90 percent practise it."
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> Arwa Mohammad, who is in her 20s, signed the petition
>>> because
>>> >> > > "it's
>>> >> > > > > >> >> archaic and nonsensical." She was circumcised when she
>>> >> > > > > >> >> was
>>> >> seven
>>> >> > > by
>>> >> > > > > her
>>> >> > > > > >> >> grandmother's doctor friend. "Just goes to show how this
>>> >> ritual
>>> >> > > > > >> perpetuates
>>> >> > > > > >> >> without anyone questioning!"
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> Married a year back, Mohammad was "not traumatised" for
>>> life
>>> >> for
>>> >> > > > > getting
>>> >> > > > > >> >> circumcised, but cannot comprehend the reason still. "I
>>> have
>>> >> > > friends
>>> >> > > > > who
>>> >> > > > > >> >> have been circumcised like me but have a high sex drive.
>>> On
>>> >> the
>>> >> > > other
>>> >> > > > > >> hand,
>>> >> > > > > >> >> she admits to "frigidity" in bed.
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> "The thought of snipping off a bit of a young child's
>>> >> clitoris
>>> >> > > gives
>>> >> > > > > me
>>> >> > > > > >> >> the goosebumps," said 37-year-old uncircumcised Amena
>>> >> > > > > >> >> Ali.
>>> >> She
>>> >> > > > > refuses
>>> >> > > > > >> to
>>> >> > > > > >> >> put her two daughters, aged six and eight - considered
>>> >> > > > > >> >> the
>>> >> right
>>> >> > > age
>>> >> > > > > >> band
>>> >> > > > > >> >> for circumcision - under the blade.
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> The petition, put up last October, has opened an
>>> >> > > > > >> >> animated
>>> >> forum
>>> >> > > for
>>> >> > > > > >> >> discussion on both sides of the border, perhaps for the
>>> very
>>> >> > > first
>>> >> > > > > time,
>>> >> > > > > >> >> within the community on a subject that was taboo.
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> "Initially, only the non-Bohras were signing, but once
>>> >> > > > > >> >> the
>>> >> media
>>> >> > > got
>>> >> > > > > >> into
>>> >> > > > > >> >> the act, many women from the community openly began
>>> talking
>>> >> about
>>> >> > > > > their
>>> >> > > > > >> >> painful experience," Tasleem told IPS in an email
>>> >> > > > > >> >> exchange
>>> >> from
>>> >> > > > > India.
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> So far, Tasleem has been able to collect 1,059
>>> signatures. "I
>>> >> > > will
>>> >> > > > > keep
>>> >> > > > > >> >> this going till Dr. Syedna bans it. Raising awareness is
>>> the
>>> >> > > first
>>> >> > > > > step
>>> >> > > > > >> >> towards solving the problem."
>>> >> > > > > >> >>
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