Saya bentangkan lagi kutipan isi emailnya.
Anda "TNI bagusnya dibubarkan" karena "jaman penjajahan sudah berakhir".
Gila.
--- Pada Sel, 27/7/10, Jusfiq <kesayangan.al...@gmail.com> menulis:
Dari: Jusfiq <kesayangan.al...@gmail.com>
Judul: Bls: [proletar] Re: Panglima TNI: Persoalan Kopassus Selesai +
....Proposed resu
Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Selasa, 27 Juli, 2010, 8:28 PM
Sedeng.
Penipu.
Tukang kibul.
Pendusta.
Bangsat.
Bajingan.
Betul jaman penjajahan sudah berakhir..
Tapi bukan karena jaman penjajahan sudah berakhir makanya saya bilang TNI
bagusnya dibubarkan..
Saya bilang: "Perang itu udah nggak ada gunanya selain buang-buang nyawa dan
buang-buang duit..."
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> Judul: Bls: [proletar] Re: Panglima TNI: Persoalan Kopassus Selesai +
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> > > > > latihan bagi Kopassus oleh Amerika Serikat (AS) yang disampaikan
> > > > > Menteri Pertahanan Amerika Serikat (AS), Robert Gates, usai bertemu
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> > > > > Angkatan Bersenjata se-Asia Pasifik (Chief of Defence
> > > > > Conference/CHOD), kepercayaan yang diberikan kepada TNI untuk ikut
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> > > > > "Tahun ini, ada 107 program yang ditawarkan. Namun, biasanya kami
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> > > > > terakhir dan berharap hubungan kerja sama militer kedua negara dapat
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> > > > > siang, mengatakan, sejumlah kebijakan yang diambil Kementerian
> > > > > Pertahanan RI atas isu hak asasi manusia juga menjadi dasar
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> > > > > kebijakan Kementerian Pertahanan terhadap beberapa isu hak asasi
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> > > > > berbagai hal, terkait hubungan kedua negara terutama dalam bidang
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> > > > > dalam pertemuan kedua menteri pertahanan itu, selain membahas kembali
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> > > > > for the Indonesian special forces unit, the Kopassus ("Komando
> > > > > Pasukan Khusus" or "Special Force Command"). Below are five key
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> > > > > Indonesian military troops, the State Department's legal counsel
> > > > > ruled that the Leahy law was still applicable and the training did
> > > > > not go forward. Now President Obama is working to reverse the ban and
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