Jelaskan kan selain syaraf, pembohong, impoten si malin kundang ini juga sduah
pikun. Inilah yg dia tulis:
"Sedeng.
Otak babi.
Omongan orang gila.
Jaman penjajahan sudah berakhir."
--- Pada Sel, 27/7/10, Jusfiq <kesayangan.al...@gmail.com> menulis:
Dari: Jusfiq <kesayangan.al...@gmail.com>
Judul: Bls: [proletar] Re: Panglima TNI: Persoalan Kopassus Selesai +
....Proposed resu
Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Selasa, 27 Juli, 2010, 6:50 PM
PAREWA PAREWA yang gila dan kampiun tukang fitnah itu jelas adalah penipu
pula..
Saya tidak bilang bahwa tentara Indonesia perlu dibubarkan karena jaman
penjajahan sudah berakhir tapi karena "Perang itu udah nggak ada gunanya selain
buang-buang nyawa dan buang-buang duit..."
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, PAREWA <parew...@...> wrote:
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> Jelaskan saudara-saudara nih orang pembohong besar. Cek deh emailnya dibawah
> dia bilang ""jaman penjajahan sudah berakhir".
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> --- Pada Sel, 27/7/10, Jusfiq <kesayangan.al...@...> menulis:
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> Dari: Jusfiq <kesayangan.al...@...>
> Judul: Bls: [proletar] Re: Panglima TNI: Persoalan Kopassus Selesai +
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> Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com
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> > Judul: Bls: [proletar] Re: Panglima TNI: Persoalan Kopassus Selesai +
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> > > > Jakarta (ANTARA News) - Panglima TNI Jenderal TNI Djoko Santoso
> > > > menyatakan, persoalan pelanggaran Hak Asasi Manusia (HAM) oleh Komando
> > > > Pasukan Khusus TNI Angkatan Darat (Kopassus), sudah selesai.
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> > > > selesai," katanya, di Jakarta, Kamis, menanggapi pembukaan kembali
> > > > latihan bagi Kopassus oleh Amerika Serikat (AS) yang disampaikan
> > > > Menteri Pertahanan Amerika Serikat (AS), Robert Gates, usai bertemu
> > > > Presiden Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono dan Menteri Pertahanan RI Purnomo
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> > > > internal di berbagai lini dan itu telah disampaikan di berbagai forum
> > > > internasional. "Misalnya, dalam pertemuan Panglima Angkatan Bersenjata
> > > > se-Asia Pasifik (Chief of Defence Conference/CHOD), kepercayaan yang
> > > > diberikan kepada TNI untuk ikut dalam Latihan Bersama Komando AS
> > > > Kawasan Asia Pasifik Cobra Gold, latihan misi perdamaian PBB Garuda
> > > > Shield dan lainnya," tutur Djoko.
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> > > > latihan yang diberikan Komando AS di Asia Pasifik (USPACOM). "Tahun
> > > > ini, ada 107 program yang ditawarkan. Namun, biasanya kami hanya ambil
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> > > > prajurit TNI yang akan melanggar HAM dalam penungasannya, baik di
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> > > > mendampingi Menteri Pertahanan Purnomo Yusgiantoro mengadakan
> > > > pembicaraan bilateral dengan Menhan Robert Gates.
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> > > > berharap hubungan kerja sama militer kedua negara dapat meningkat.
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> > > > Presiden Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono di Istana Presiden Jakarta, Kamis
> > > > siang, mengatakan, sejumlah kebijakan yang diambil Kementerian
> > > > Pertahanan RI atas isu hak asasi manusia juga menjadi dasar
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> > > > kebijakan Kementerian Pertahanan terhadap beberapa isu hak asasi
> > > > manusia membuat AS akan memulai program kerjasama keamanan dengan
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> > > > berbagai hal, terkait hubungan kedua negara terutama dalam bidang
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> > > > cut ties with the special forces under a 1997 law that banned U.S.
> > > > training for foreign military units accused of human rights violations.
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> > > > taken by the Ministry of Defense to address human rights issues, the
> > > > United States will begin measured and gradual programs of security
> > > > cooperation activities with the Indonesian Army Special Forces," Gates
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> > > > to discuss, among other topics, renewing US-backed military training
> > > > for the Indonesian special forces unit, the Kopassus ("Komando Pasukan
> > > > Khusus" or "Special Force Command"). Below are five key controversies
> > > > that continually appear in news reports and commentaries about this
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> > > > assurances by Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono during
> > > > visits to the United States, Kopassus officers involved in serious
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> > > > The few soldiers who have faced military tribunals have been reinstated
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> > > > In the United States, the Leahy law enacted in 1997, bars US training
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> > > > 2005 when then-President Bush looked to waive that ban to train
> > > > Indonesian military troops, the State Department's legal counsel ruled
> > > > that the Leahy law was still applicable and the training did not go
> > > > forward. Now President Obama is working to reverse the ban and train
> > > > younger members of the Kopassus. The Obama administration argues that
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> > > > forces secretly assassinated a series of civilian activists. Reporter
> > > > Allan Nairn, who unearthed the story using official sources, is now
> > > > facing possible arrest in Jakarta for reporting the story. Given these
> > > > recent events, no members of the Kopassus can be considered exempt from
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> > > > Miller argues that "US support for greater Indonesian military
> > > > involvement [in counter-terrorism] will only undercut the police,
> > > > strengthen the military internal, territorial role and further
> > > > undermine reform." Miller also argues that US military assistance will
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> > > > Indonesia for a few years as a boy provide him with a special
> > > > connection to Indonesia and its people. But, they warn, Indonesia now
> > > > is very different from the Indonesia under Suharto he knew as a boy.
> > > > Generally, it seems people are worried that Obama's special connection
> > > > to Indonesia will cloud his judgment politically as he works to undo
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