Jelaskan saudara-saudara nih orang pembohong besar. Cek deh emailnya dibawah
dia bilang ""jaman penjajahan sudah berakhir".
--- Pada Sel, 27/7/10, Jusfiq <kesayangan.al...@gmail.com> menulis:
Dari: Jusfiq <kesayangan.al...@gmail.com>
Judul: Bls: [proletar] Re: Panglima TNI: Persoalan Kopassus Selesai +
....Proposed resu
Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Selasa, 27 Juli, 2010, 6:38 PM
PAREWA PAREWA yang sedeng itu menipu lagi...
Omongan saya dipelintirnya..
Saya bilang:
"Perang itu udah nggak ada gunanya selain buang-buang nyawa dan buang-buang
duit..."
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, PAREWA <parew...@...> wrote:
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> Manusia tak berpendidikan.
> Tak punya harga diri.
> Tentara indonesia suruh dibubarkan.
> Alasannya "jaman penjajahan sudah berakhir".
> Gila.
> Anjing
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> --- Pada Kam, 22/7/10, Jusfiq <kesayangan.al...@...> menulis:
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> Dari: Jusfiq <kesayangan.al...@...>
> Judul: Bls: [proletar] Re: Panglima TNI: Persoalan Kopassus Selesai +
> ....Proposed resu
> Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Kamis, 22 Juli, 2010, 7:10 PM
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> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, PAREWA <parewa70@> wrote:
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> > Jelas anda yg senang. Nanti belanda menjajah indonesia lagi. Lalu duitnya
> > bisa buat membayar tunjangan pengangguran macam anda.
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> > --- Pada Kam, 22/7/10, Jusfiq <kesayangan.allah@> menulis:
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> > Judul: [proletar] Re: Panglima TNI: Persoalan Kopassus Selesai +
> > ....Proposed resumption of US mil
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> > Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com
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> > Tanggal: Kamis, 22 Juli, 2010, 7:04 PM
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> > Benernya TNI itu bagusnya dibubarkan saja..
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> > Perang itu udah nggak ada gunanya selain buang-buang nyawa dan buang-buang
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> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "sunny" <ambon@> wrote:
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> > > Refleksi : Bagaimana diselesaikan ataukah selesainya seperti kasus Bank
> > > Century?
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> > > http://www.antaranews.com/berita/1279798539/panglima-tni-persoalan-kopassus-selesai
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> > > Panglima TNI: Persoalan Kopassus Selesai
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> > > Kamis, 22 Juli 2010 18:35 WIB | Peristiwa | Politik/Hankam |
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> > > Jakarta (ANTARA News) - Panglima TNI Jenderal TNI Djoko Santoso
> > > menyatakan, persoalan pelanggaran Hak Asasi Manusia (HAM) oleh Komando
> > > Pasukan Khusus TNI Angkatan Darat (Kopassus), sudah selesai.
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> > > "Bagi TNI, persoalan dugaan pelanggaran HAM oleh Kopassus telah selesai,"
> > > katanya, di Jakarta, Kamis, menanggapi pembukaan kembali latihan bagi
> > > Kopassus oleh Amerika Serikat (AS) yang disampaikan Menteri Pertahanan
> > > Amerika Serikat (AS), Robert Gates, usai bertemu Presiden Susilo Bambang
> > > Yudhoyono dan Menteri Pertahanan RI Purnomo Yusgiantoro.
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> > > Ia mengatakan, sejak sepuluh tahun lebih TNI telah melakukan reformasi
> > > internal di berbagai lini dan itu telah disampaikan di berbagai forum
> > > internasional. "Misalnya, dalam pertemuan Panglima Angkatan Bersenjata
> > > se-Asia Pasifik (Chief of Defence Conference/CHOD), kepercayaan yang
> > > diberikan kepada TNI untuk ikut dalam Latihan Bersama Komando AS Kawasan
> > > Asia Pasifik Cobra Gold, latihan misi perdamaian PBB Garuda Shield dan
> > > lainnya," tutur Djoko.
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> > > Tak hanya itu, TNI juga tetap menerima program-porogram pendidikan dan
> > > latihan yang diberikan Komando AS di Asia Pasifik (USPACOM). "Tahun ini,
> > > ada 107 program yang ditawarkan. Namun, biasanya kami hanya ambil sesuai
> > > kebutuhan TNI," kata Panglima TNI.
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> > > Djoko bahkan menegaskan, TNI juga telah memasukkan pendidikan HAM dalam
> > > kurikulum di setiap jenjang pendidikan di TNI sehingga tidak ada lagi
> > > prajurit TNI yang akan melanggar HAM dalam penungasannya, baik di daerah
> > > aman maupun di daerah konflik.
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> > > "Jadi, bagi TNI, persoalan Kopassus terkait pelanggaran HAM sudah
> > > selesai," ujarnya.
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> > > Pada kesempatan itu, Panglima TNI menyatakan, pihaknya menyambut positif
> > > keputusan AS untuk memberikan kembali latihan bagi Kopassus.
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> > > "Kami akan mempersiapkan dengan sebaik-baiknya, apalagi Kopassus
> > > merupakan salah satu satuan khusus terbaik di dunia," ujarnya, usai
> > > mendampingi Menteri Pertahanan Purnomo Yusgiantoro mengadakan pembicaraan
> > > bilateral dengan Menhan Robert Gates.
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> > > (T.R018/P003)
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> > > http://www.antaranews.com/berita/1279790766/as-apresiasi-reformasi-tni
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> > > AS Apresiasi Reformasi TNI
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> > > Kamis, 22 Juli 2010 16:26 WIB | Peristiwa | Politik/Hankam |
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> > > Jakarta (ANTARA News) - Pemerintah Amerika Serikat memberikan apresiasi
> > > atas reformasi TNI yang berlangsung sejak beberapa tahun terakhir dan
> > > berharap hubungan kerja sama militer kedua negara dapat meningkat.
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> > > Menteri Pertahanan AS Robert Gates dalam keterangan pers usai bertemu
> > > Presiden Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono di Istana Presiden Jakarta, Kamis
> > > siang, mengatakan, sejumlah kebijakan yang diambil Kementerian Pertahanan
> > > RI atas isu hak asasi manusia juga menjadi dasar pertimbangan keinginan
> > > peningkatan kerja sama itu.
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> > > "Dengan senang saya sampaikan kepada Presiden bahwa hasil reformasi
> > > militer dalam beberapa dekade ini, profesionalisme TNI dan sejumlah
> > > kebijakan Kementerian Pertahanan terhadap beberapa isu hak asasi manusia
> > > membuat AS akan memulai program kerjasama keamanan dengan Pasukan Khusus
> > > Indonesia," katanya.
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> > > Gates menambahkan, peningkatan kerja sama juga akan diikuti dengan
> > > kelanjutan reformasi TNI dan Kopassus dalam masa mendatang.
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> > > Robert Gates setelah bertemu Presiden kemudian menuju kementerian
> > > pertahanan untuk pembicaraan bilateral dengan Menhan Purnomo Yusgiantoro.
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> > > Sebelum bertemu Presiden Yudhoyono, Robert Gates mengadakan pertemuan
> > > tertutup dengan Menteri Pertahanan Purnomo Yusgiantoro membahas berbagai
> > > hal, terkait hubungan kedua negara terutama dalam bidang pertahanan dan
> > > keamanan, di Kantor Kementerian Pertahanan, Jakarta.
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> > > Dirjen Strategi Pertahanan Kementerian Pertahanan Mayjen TNI Syarifuddin
> > > Tippe kepada ANTARA News mengatakan, tidak ada hal baru dalam pertemuan
> > > kedua menteri pertahanan itu, selain membahas kembali kerja sama yang
> > > telah dijalin kedua pihak dalam bidang pertahanan.
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> > > Indonesia, dalam kerangka kerja sama pertahanan kedua negara. Pembahasan
> > > hanya berbicara seputar kerja sama yang telah dilaksanakan kedua pihak
> > > untuk meningkatkan dan lebih memantapkan kerja sama pertahanan kedua
> > > negara," ungkapnya.
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> > > Sebelumnya, Pemerintah RI dan AS melalui kementerian pertahanan kedua
> > > negara sepakat untuk menegaskan kembali kerja sama di bawah kerangka
> > > kemitraan komprehensif serta penerapannya yang akan dituangkan dalam
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> > > Kesepakatan itu tertuang dalam nota kerja sama bidang pertahanan antara
> > > Kemenhan RI dengan Dephan AS yang memuat pengaturan kerangka kegiatan
> > > kerja sama bidang pertahanan antara Kemenhan RI dengan Dephan AS, yang
> > > ditandatangani pada Juni 2010. (T.P008*F008/A041/P00
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> > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100722/ap_on_re_as/as_indonesia_us
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> > > AP - Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, right, shakeS hands
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> > > By NINIEK KARMINI, Associated Press Writer Niniek Karmini, Associated
> > > Press Writer - 1 min ago
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> > > JAKARTA, Indonesia - The United States announced Thursday it will resume
> > > cooperation with Indonesia's special forces after ties were severed more
> > > than a decade ago over alleged human rights abuses by the commando unit.
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> > > with Indonesia's President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono on Thursday in the
> > > capital of Jakarta. Indonesia had said it wanted the United States to
> > > reconsider resuming joint training.
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> > > has said it made great strides in improving its human rights record.
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> > > Indonesia's special forces were accused of major abuses through the 1990s
> > > in the provinces of Papua and Aceh and the former Indonesian province of
> > > East Timor, which has since become independent. The U.S. cut ties with
> > > the special forces under a 1997 law that banned U.S. training for foreign
> > > military units accused of human rights violations. The ban can be lifted
> > > if there have been substantial measures to bring culprits to justice.
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> > > "I was pleased to be able to tell the president that as a result of
> > > Indonesian military reform over the past decade ... and recent actions
> > > taken by the Ministry of Defense to address human rights issues, the
> > > United States will begin measured and gradual programs of security
> > > cooperation activities with the Indonesian Army Special Forces," Gates
> > > said at a news conference.
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> > > not signal any lessening of the importance we place on human rights and
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> > > "I'll guard the Indonesian military reform and ensure that what happened
> > > 10 or 20 years ago will not happen again," the president was quoted as
> > > saying by Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro, who also attended the
> > > meeting with Gates.
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> > > Washington severed all ties with the Indonesian military in 1999 after
> > > troops rampaged through East Timor when it voted to secede from
> > > Indonesia. The U.S. lifted that overall ban in 2005, but kept its
> > > restrictions against the special forces - known as Kopassus.
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> > > implementation of reforms with Kopassus and (the Indonesian military) as
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> > > the disappearance of student activists in 1997 and 1998 and were never
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> > > both convinced that rapprochement was "the right thing to do at this
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> > > Associated Press writer Joe Cochrane contributed to this report.
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> > > http://www.ssrresourcecentre.org/2010/06/08/proposed-resumption-of-us-military-training-to-indonesia-draws-outrage-controversy/
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> > > Proposed resumption of US military training to Indonesia draws outrage,
> > > controversy By: Jessica Teeple
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> > > President Obama is expected to travel to Indonesia in the near future to
> > > discuss, among other topics, renewing US-backed military training for the
> > > Indonesian special forces unit, the Kopassus ("Komando Pasukan Khusus" or
> > > "Special Force Command"). Below are five key controversies that
> > > continually appear in news reports and commentaries about this topic.
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> > > violations it has committed. Amnesty International USA reports that
> > > "despite promises by the Indonesian government, despite repeated
> > > assurances by Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono during visits
> > > to the United States, Kopassus officers involved in serious human rights
> > > crimes have never been brought to legal accountability." The few soldiers
> > > who have faced military tribunals have been reinstated into the ranks and
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> > > foreign military units with a history of human rights violations. In 2005
> > > when then-President Bush looked to waive that ban to train Indonesian
> > > military troops, the State Department's legal counsel ruled that the
> > > Leahy law was still applicable and the training did not go forward. Now
> > > President Obama is working to reverse the ban and train younger members
> > > of the Kopassus. The Obama administration argues that this is acceptable
> > > because young members did not play a part in past human rights violations.
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> > > secretly assassinated a series of civilian activists. Reporter Allan
> > > Nairn, who unearthed the story using official sources, is now facing
> > > possible arrest in Jakarta for reporting the story. Given these recent
> > > events, no members of the Kopassus can be considered exempt from human
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> > > the police who perform the major role, not the military. The national
> > > coordinator of the East Timor Action Network (ETAN), John M. Miller
> > > argues that "US support for greater Indonesian military involvement [in
> > > counter-terrorism] will only undercut the police, strengthen the military
> > > internal, territorial role and further undermine reform." Miller also
> > > argues that US military assistance will set back the small advancements
> > > in human rights and security sector reform, especially military reform.
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> > > highlight that Obama's family links and his experience living in
> > > Indonesia for a few years as a boy provide him with a special connection
> > > to Indonesia and its people. But, they warn, Indonesia now is very
> > > different from the Indonesia under Suharto he knew as a boy. Generally,
> > > it seems people are worried that Obama's special connection to Indonesia
> > > will cloud his judgment politically as he works to undo the Leahy law and
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> > > Want to know more? Read Human Rights Watch's letter to Obama, read
> > > Kristen Sundell's personal interaction with the Indonesian military, and
> > > browse the East Timor and Indonesia Action Network (specifically here,
> > > here, and here).
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