Ngomongnya pakai o...@yusfik? Pantes --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq" <kesayangan.al...@...> wrote: > > Sedeng. > > Otak babi. > > Omongan orang gila. > > Jaman penjajahan sudah berakhir. > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, PAREWA <parewa70@> wrote: > > > > Jelas anda yg senang. Nanti belanda menjajah indonesia lagi. Lalu duitnya > > bisa buat membayar tunjangan pengangguran macam anda. > > > > --- Pada Kam, 22/7/10, Jusfiq <kesayangan.allah@> menulis: > > > > Dari: Jusfiq <kesayangan.allah@> > > Judul: [proletar] Re: Panglima TNI: Persoalan Kopassus Selesai + > > ....Proposed resumption of US mil > > Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > Tanggal: Kamis, 22 Juli, 2010, 7:04 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Benernya TNI itu bagusnya dibubarkan saja.. > > > > > > > > Perang itu udah nggak ada gunanya selain buang-buang nyawa dan buang-buang > > duit... > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "sunny" <ambon@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Refleksi : Bagaimana diselesaikan ataukah selesainya seperti kasus Bank > > > Century? > > > > > > > > > > http://www.antaranews.com/berita/1279798539/panglima-tni-persoalan-kopassus-selesai > > > > > > > > > > Panglima TNI: Persoalan Kopassus Selesai > > > > > Kamis, 22 Juli 2010 18:35 WIB | Peristiwa | Politik/Hankam | > > > > > Jakarta (ANTARA News) - Panglima TNI Jenderal TNI Djoko Santoso > > > menyatakan, persoalan pelanggaran Hak Asasi Manusia (HAM) oleh Komando > > > Pasukan Khusus TNI Angkatan Darat (Kopassus), sudah selesai. > > > > > > > > > > "Bagi TNI, persoalan dugaan pelanggaran HAM oleh Kopassus telah selesai," > > > katanya, di Jakarta, Kamis, menanggapi pembukaan kembali latihan bagi > > > Kopassus oleh Amerika Serikat (AS) yang disampaikan Menteri Pertahanan > > > Amerika Serikat (AS), Robert Gates, usai bertemu Presiden Susilo Bambang > > > Yudhoyono dan Menteri Pertahanan RI Purnomo Yusgiantoro. > > > > > > > > > > Ia mengatakan, sejak sepuluh tahun lebih TNI telah melakukan reformasi > > > internal di berbagai lini dan itu telah disampaikan di berbagai forum > > > internasional. "Misalnya, dalam pertemuan Panglima Angkatan Bersenjata > > > se-Asia Pasifik (Chief of Defence Conference/CHOD), kepercayaan yang > > > diberikan kepada TNI untuk ikut dalam Latihan Bersama Komando AS Kawasan > > > Asia Pasifik Cobra Gold, latihan misi perdamaian PBB Garuda Shield dan > > > lainnya," tutur Djoko. > > > > > > > > > > Tak hanya itu, TNI juga tetap menerima program-porogram pendidikan dan > > > latihan yang diberikan Komando AS di Asia Pasifik (USPACOM). "Tahun ini, > > > ada 107 program yang ditawarkan. Namun, biasanya kami hanya ambil sesuai > > > kebutuhan TNI," kata Panglima TNI. > > > > > > > > > > Djoko bahkan menegaskan, TNI juga telah memasukkan pendidikan HAM dalam > > > kurikulum di setiap jenjang pendidikan di TNI sehingga tidak ada lagi > > > prajurit TNI yang akan melanggar HAM dalam penungasannya, baik di daerah > > > aman maupun di daerah konflik. > > > > > > > > > > "Jadi, bagi TNI, persoalan Kopassus terkait pelanggaran HAM sudah > > > selesai," ujarnya. > > > > > > > > > > Pada kesempatan itu, Panglima TNI menyatakan, pihaknya menyambut positif > > > keputusan AS untuk memberikan kembali latihan bagi Kopassus. > > > > > > > > > > "Kami akan mempersiapkan dengan sebaik-baiknya, apalagi Kopassus > > > merupakan salah satu satuan khusus terbaik di dunia," ujarnya, usai > > > mendampingi Menteri Pertahanan Purnomo Yusgiantoro mengadakan pembicaraan > > > bilateral dengan Menhan Robert Gates. > > > > > (T.R018/P003) > > > > > ++++ > > > > > http://www.antaranews.com/berita/1279790766/as-apresiasi-reformasi-tni > > > > > AS Apresiasi Reformasi TNI > > > > > Kamis, 22 Juli 2010 16:26 WIB | Peristiwa | Politik/Hankam | > > > > > Jakarta (ANTARA News) - Pemerintah Amerika Serikat memberikan apresiasi > > > atas reformasi TNI yang berlangsung sejak beberapa tahun terakhir dan > > > berharap hubungan kerja sama militer kedua negara dapat meningkat. > > > > > > > > > > Menteri Pertahanan AS Robert Gates dalam keterangan pers usai bertemu > > > Presiden Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono di Istana Presiden Jakarta, Kamis > > > siang, mengatakan, sejumlah kebijakan yang diambil Kementerian Pertahanan > > > RI atas isu hak asasi manusia juga menjadi dasar pertimbangan keinginan > > > peningkatan kerja sama itu. > > > > > > > > > > "Dengan senang saya sampaikan kepada Presiden bahwa hasil reformasi > > > militer dalam beberapa dekade ini, profesionalisme TNI dan sejumlah > > > kebijakan Kementerian Pertahanan terhadap beberapa isu hak asasi manusia > > > membuat AS akan memulai program kerjasama keamanan dengan Pasukan Khusus > > > Indonesia," katanya. > > > > > > > > > > Gates menambahkan, peningkatan kerja sama juga akan diikuti dengan > > > kelanjutan reformasi TNI dan Kopassus dalam masa mendatang. > > > > > > > > > > "Kami mempertimbangkan pembangunan kerjasama militer kedua negara dan > > > hubungan yang lebih dekat dengan TNI dimasa yang akan datang," tegasnya. > > > > > > > > > > Robert Gates setelah bertemu Presiden kemudian menuju kementerian > > > pertahanan untuk pembicaraan bilateral dengan Menhan Purnomo Yusgiantoro. > > > > > > > > > > Sebelum bertemu Presiden Yudhoyono, Robert Gates mengadakan pertemuan > > > tertutup dengan Menteri Pertahanan Purnomo Yusgiantoro membahas berbagai > > > hal, terkait hubungan kedua negara terutama dalam bidang pertahanan dan > > > keamanan, di Kantor Kementerian Pertahanan, Jakarta. > > > > > > > > > > Dirjen Strategi Pertahanan Kementerian Pertahanan Mayjen TNI Syarifuddin > > > Tippe kepada ANTARA News mengatakan, tidak ada hal baru dalam pertemuan > > > kedua menteri pertahanan itu, selain membahas kembali kerja sama yang > > > telah dijalin kedua pihak dalam bidang pertahanan. > > > > > > > > > > "Tidak ada hal baru yang signifikan yang diajukan Amerika Serikat kepada > > > Indonesia, dalam kerangka kerja sama pertahanan kedua negara. Pembahasan > > > hanya berbicara seputar kerja sama yang telah dilaksanakan kedua pihak > > > untuk meningkatkan dan lebih memantapkan kerja sama pertahanan kedua > > > negara," ungkapnya. > > > > > > > > > > Sebelumnya, Pemerintah RI dan AS melalui kementerian pertahanan kedua > > > negara sepakat untuk menegaskan kembali kerja sama di bawah kerangka > > > kemitraan komprehensif serta penerapannya yang akan dituangkan dalam > > > sebuah rencana aksi. > > > > > > > > > > Kesepakatan itu tertuang dalam nota kerja sama bidang pertahanan antara > > > Kemenhan RI dengan Dephan AS yang memuat pengaturan kerangka kegiatan > > > kerja sama bidang pertahanan antara Kemenhan RI dengan Dephan AS, yang > > > ditandatangani pada Juni 2010. (T.P008*F008/A041/P00 > > > > > ++++ > > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100722/ap_on_re_as/as_indonesia_us > > > > > US to resume ties with Indonesia's special forces > > > > > > > > > > a.. > > > > > AP - Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, right, shakeS hands > > > with U.S. Defense Secretary Robert . > > > > > By NINIEK KARMINI, Associated Press Writer Niniek Karmini, Associated > > > Press Writer - 1 min ago > > > > > JAKARTA, Indonesia - The United States announced Thursday it will resume > > > cooperation with Indonesia's special forces after ties were severed more > > > than a decade ago over alleged human rights abuses by the commando unit. > > > > > > > > > > U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates made the announcement after meeting > > > with Indonesia's President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono on Thursday in the > > > capital of Jakarta. Indonesia had said it wanted the United States to > > > reconsider resuming joint training. > > > > > > > > > > The decision will be seen as a victory for the Indonesian military, which > > > has said it made great strides in improving its human rights record. > > > > > > > > > > Indonesia's special forces were accused of major abuses through the 1990s > > > in the provinces of Papua and Aceh and the former Indonesian province of > > > East Timor, which has since become independent. The U.S. cut ties with > > > the special forces under a 1997 law that banned U.S. training for foreign > > > military units accused of human rights violations. The ban can be lifted > > > if there have been substantial measures to bring culprits to justice. > > > > > > > > > > "I was pleased to be able to tell the president that as a result of > > > Indonesian military reform over the past decade ... and recent actions > > > taken by the Ministry of Defense to address human rights issues, the > > > United States will begin measured and gradual programs of security > > > cooperation activities with the Indonesian Army Special Forces," Gates > > > said at a news conference. > > > > > > > > > > "This initial step will take place within the limit of U.S. law and does > > > not signal any lessening of the importance we place on human rights and > > > accountability," he added. > > > > > > > > > > Yudhoyono guaranteed that there would be no more rights abuses by the > > > Indonesian military. > > > > > > > > > > "I'll guard the Indonesian military reform and ensure that what happened > > > 10 or 20 years ago will not happen again," the president was quoted as > > > saying by Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro, who also attended the > > > meeting with Gates. > > > > > > > > > > Washington severed all ties with the Indonesian military in 1999 after > > > troops rampaged through East Timor when it voted to secede from > > > Indonesia. The U.S. lifted that overall ban in 2005, but kept its > > > restrictions against the special forces - known as Kopassus. > > > > > > > > > > "Our ability to expand after this initial step will depend on continued > > > implementation of reforms with Kopassus and (the Indonesian military) as > > > a whole," Gates said. > > > > > > > > > > International rights groups have said members of Kopassus were linked to > > > the disappearance of student activists in 1997 and 1998 and were never > > > held accountable. > > > > > > > > > > But Gates said that he and U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton were > > > both convinced that rapprochement was "the right thing to do at this > > > time." > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > > Associated Press writer Joe Cochrane contributed to this report. > > > > > > > > > > ++++ > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ssrresourcecentre.org/2010/06/08/proposed-resumption-of-us-military-training-to-indonesia-draws-outrage-controversy/ > > > > > > > > > > Proposed resumption of US military training to Indonesia draws outrage, > > > controversy By: Jessica Teeple > > > > > | Indonesia | Jun 8, 2010 > > > > > President Obama is expected to travel to Indonesia in the near future to > > > discuss, among other topics, renewing US-backed military training for the > > > Indonesian special forces unit, the Kopassus ("Komando Pasukan Khusus" or > > > "Special Force Command"). Below are five key controversies that > > > continually appear in news reports and commentaries about this topic. > > > > > > > > > > Controversy #1: No legal accountability for past human rights violations. > > > > > > > > > > The Kopassus has not faced legal accountability for the many human rights > > > violations it has committed. Amnesty International USA reports that > > > "despite promises by the Indonesian government, despite repeated > > > assurances by Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono during visits > > > to the United States, Kopassus officers involved in serious human rights > > > crimes have never been brought to legal accountability." The few soldiers > > > who have faced military tribunals have been reinstated into the ranks and > > > promoted. > > > > > > > > > > Controversy #2: US law bans training the Kopassus. > > > > > > > > > > In the United States, the Leahy law enacted in 1997, bars US training of > > > foreign military units with a history of human rights violations. In 2005 > > > when then-President Bush looked to waive that ban to train Indonesian > > > military troops, the State Department's legal counsel ruled that the > > > Leahy law was still applicable and the training did not go forward. Now > > > President Obama is working to reverse the ban and train younger members > > > of the Kopassus. The Obama administration argues that this is acceptable > > > because young members did not play a part in past human rights violations. > > > > > > > > > > Controversy #3: Human rights violations are not a thing of the past. > > > > > > > > > > Recently, it was discovered that during 2009, the Indonesian armed forces > > > secretly assassinated a series of civilian activists. Reporter Allan > > > Nairn, who unearthed the story using official sources, is now facing > > > possible arrest in Jakarta for reporting the story. Given these recent > > > events, no members of the Kopassus can be considered exempt from human > > > right violations now. > > > > > > > > > > Controversy #4: Indonesian counter-terrorism efforts will lose momentum. > > > > > > > > > > The US has applauded Indonesia's success in fighting terrorism, but it is > > > the police who perform the major role, not the military. The national > > > coordinator of the East Timor Action Network (ETAN), John M. Miller > > > argues that "US support for greater Indonesian military involvement [in > > > counter-terrorism] will only undercut the police, strengthen the military > > > internal, territorial role and further undermine reform." Miller also > > > argues that US military assistance will set back the small advancements > > > in human rights and security sector reform, especially military reform. > > > > > > > > > > Controversy #5: Obama has a special connection to Indonesia. > > > > > > > > > > Many people writing about the US resuming training of the Indonesian army > > > highlight that Obama's family links and his experience living in > > > Indonesia for a few years as a boy provide him with a special connection > > > to Indonesia and its people. But, they warn, Indonesia now is very > > > different from the Indonesia under Suharto he knew as a boy. Generally, > > > it seems people are worried that Obama's special connection to Indonesia > > > will cloud his judgment politically as he works to undo the Leahy law and > > > resume training for the Kopassus. > > > > > > > > > > Want to know more? Read Human Rights Watch's letter to Obama, read > > > Kristen Sundell's personal interaction with the Indonesian military, and > > > browse the East Timor and Indonesia Action Network (specifically here, > > > here, and here). > > > > > > > > > > Tags: Indonesia, Kopassus, military training, Obama > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
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