Kaing-kaing(siapa yang kaing2) gua kasih tahu bahwa elu itu goblok
tiap hari kaing2 goblok2an diruang ini. ________________________________ From: item abu <item...@yahoo.com> To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" <proletar@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:42 AM Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Is there a set age for marriage in Islam? Hehehe.... lu ga ngerti bhs Inggris yah, makanya lu ga baca tafsir yg gua kutip itu. Udah tolol malahan kaing2 nunjukin tololnya orang Islam ini, betul2 super tolol. >________________________________ >From: Musik hari Ini <musikhari...@yahoo.com> >To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" <proletar@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 5:20 PM >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Is there a set age for marriage in Islam? > > > >Omong kosong tiap2 hari disini > >baca Quran dimana belajar nya? >jelas inikan omongan orang gila >tidak mungkin elu yang bukan islam >lebih pinter dari gua soal islam >karena elu terjun bebas disini >jadi keliatan licik > >pake lagi nafsirin hadis seenak bero lu > >emangnya sampeyan berotak sehat? > >________________________________ >From: itemabu <item...@yahoo.com> >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:07 AM >Subject: [proletar] Re: Is there a set age for marriage in Islam? > > >Hehehe.... asal gua ngeluarin ayat Quran dgn tafsir atau hadis pendukung, >orang Islam semua akan ngacir terkencing2 ngecawat ekor, ga berani ngejawab, >paling2 cuma kaing2 kayak anjing kejepit buntut. > >--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@...> wrote: >> >> Gua kasih 4 buah tafsir ayat >> 65:4 ditambah keterangan Maududi yg bilang terang2an bhw anak ingusan yg blm >> mens itu halal diembat oleh orang soleh dan bertaqwa, hehehe... >> Yg jadi masalah itu kan adalah >> ketololan orang2 Islam yg ga becus bhs Inggris dan jg mungkin ga kenal siapa >> itu Maududi misalnya. Orang2 Islam dungu ini mungkin kenalnya cuma tukang >> tipu >> kayak si Jeffry al Bukhori atau Abdullah Gymnastiar, atau bahkan cuma tau >> Tukul >> Arwana. >>  >> Tafsir Ibn Kathir >> Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause. >> And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. Her >> `Iddah is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who >> menstruate, which is based upon the Ayah in (Surat) Al-Baqarah. ï´¿see >> 2:228ï´¾ THE SAME FOR THE YOUNG, WHO >> HAVE NOT REACHED THE YEARS OF MENSTRUATION. Their `Iddah is three months >> like those in >> menopause. This is the meaning of His saying; >> (and for those who have no courses...) as for His saying; >>  (if you have doubt...) There are two >> opinions: First, is the saying of a group of the Salaf, like Mujahid, >> Az-Zuhri >> and Ibn Zayd. That is, if they see blood and there is doubt if it was >> menstrual >> blood or not. The second, is that if you do not know the ruling in this case, >> then know that their `Iddah is three months. This has been reported from >> Sa`id >> bin Jubayr and it is the view preferred by Ibn Jarir. And this is the more >> obvious meaning. Supporting this view is what is reported from Ubay bin Ka`b >> that he said, "O Allah's Messenger! Some women were not mentioned in the >> Qur'an, the young, the old and the pregnant.'' Allah the Exalted and Most >> Honored sent down this Ayah, >>  (Those in menopause among your women, >> for them the `Iddah, if you have doubt, is three months; and for those who >> have >> no courses. And for those who are pregnant, their `Iddah is until they lay >> down >> their burden.) Ibn Abi Hatim recorded a simpler narration than this one from >> Ubay bin Ka`b who said, "O Allah's Messenger! When the Ayah in Surat >> Al-Baqarah >> was revealed prescribing the `Iddah of divorce, some people in Al-Madinah >> said, >> `There are still some women whose `Iddah has not been mentioned in the >> Qur'an. >> There are THE YOUNG, the old whose menstruation is discontinued, and the >> pregnant.' Later on, this Ayah was revealed, >>  (Those in menopause among your women, >> for them the `Iddah, if you have doubt, is three months; and for those who >> have >> no courses.)'' >>  >> Tafsir al-Jalalayn >> And [as for] those of your women >> who (read allÄ�’ī or allÄ�’i in both instances) no longer expect to >> menstruate, >> if you have any doubts, about their waiting period, their prescribed >> [waiting] >> period shall be three months, and [also for] THOSE WHO HAVE >> NOT YET MENSTRUATED, BECAUSE OF THEIR YOUNG AGE, >> their period shall [also] be three months â€" both cases apply to other than >> those whose spouses have died; for these [latter] their period is prescribed >> in >> the verse: they shall wait by themselves for four months and ten [days] [Q. >> 2:234]. And those who are pregnant, their term, the conclusion of their >> prescribed [waiting] period if divorced or if their spouses be dead, shall be >> when they deliver. And whoever fears God, He will make matters ease for him, >> in >> this world and in the Hereafter. >>  >> Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs >> (And for such of your women as >> despair of menstruation) because of old age, (if ye doubt) about their >> waiting >> period, (their period (of waiting) shall be three months) upon which another >> man asked: “O Messenger of Allah! What about the waiting period OF THOSE >> WHO DO >> NOT HAVE MENSTRUATION BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO YOUNG?â€� (ALONG WITH THOSE WHO >> HAVE >> IT NOT) BECAUSE OF YOUNG AGE, their waiting period is three months. Another >> man >> asked: “what is the waiting period for those women who are pregnant?â€� >> (And for >> those with child) i.e. those who are pregnant, (their period) their waiting >> period (shall be till they bring forth their burden) their child. (And >> whosoever keepeth his duty to Allah) and whoever fears Allah regarding what >> he >> commands him, (He maketh his course easy for him) He makes his matter easy; >> and >> it is also said this means: He will help him to worship Him well. >>  >> Asbab Al-Nuzul by Al-Wahidi >> (And for such of your >> women as despair of menstruation…) [65:4]. Said Muqatil: “When the verse >> (Women >> who are divorced shall wait, keeping themselves apart…), Kallad ibn >> al-Nu‘man >> ibn Qays al-Ansari said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, what is the waiting period >> of >> the woman who does not menstruate and THE WOMAN WHO HAS NOT MENSTRUATED YET? >> And what is the waiting period of the pregnant woman?’ And so Allah, >> exalted is >> He, revealed this verseâ€�. Abu Ishaq al-Muqri’ informed us> Muhammad ibn >> ‘Abd >> Allah ibn Hamdun> Makki ibn ‘Abdan> Abu’l-Azhar> Asbat ibn Muhammad> >> Mutarrif> Abu ‘Uthman ‘Amr ibn Salim who said: “When the waiting >> period for >> divorced and widowed women was mentioned in Surah al-Baqarah, Ubayy ibn >> Ka‘b >> said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, some women of Medina are saying: there are >> other >> women who have not been mentioned!’ He asked him: ‘And who are they?’ >> He said: >> ‘THOSE WHO ARE TOO YOUNG [SUCH THAT THEY HAVE NOT STARTED MENSTRUATING >> YET], those >> who are too old [whose menstruation has stopped] and those who are >> pregnant’. >> And so this verse (And for such of your women as despair of menstruation…) >> was >> revealedâ€�. >>  >>  >> Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi - Tafhim al-Qur'an - The Meaning of the >> Qur'an >> 13They may not have menstruated as >> yet either BECAUSE OF YOUNG AGE, or delayed menstrual discharge as it happens >> in the case of some women, or because of no discharge at all throughout life >> which, though rare, may also be the case. In any case, the waiting-period of >> such a woman is the same as of the woman, who has stopped menstruation, that >> is >> three months from the time divorce was pronounced. >> Here, one should bear in >> mind the fact that according to the explanations given in the Qur'an the >> question of the waiting period arises in respect of the women with whom >> marriage may have been consummated, FOR THERE IS NO WAITING-PERIOD IN CASE >> DIVORCE IS PRONOUNCED BEFORE THE CONSUMMATION OF MARRIAGE. (AL-AHZAB: 49). >> Therefore, >> MAKING MENTION OF THE WAITING-PERIOD FOR THE GIRLS WHO HAVE NOT YET >> MENSTRUATED, CLEARLY PROVES THAT IT IS NOT ONLY PERMISSIBLE TO GIVE AWAY THE >> GIRL IN MARRIAGE AT THIS AGE BUT IT IS ALSO PERMISSIBLE FOR THE HUSBAND TO >> CONSUMMATE MARRIAGE WITH HER. Now, obviously no Muslim has the right to >> forbid >> a thing which the Qur'an has held as permissible. >> The girl who is divorced >> in the state when she has not yet menstruated and then she starts having the >> menses during the waiting-period, will reckon her waiting-period from the >> same >> menstruation and her waiting-period will be reckoned just like the woman who >> menstruates regularly. >>  >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> >From: item abu <itemabu@...> >> >To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" <proletar@yahoogroups.com> >> >Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 6:14 PM >> >Subject: [proletar] Is there a set age for marriage in Islam? >> > >> > >> > >> >The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) married >> >‘Aa’ishah (may Allah be pleased with her) when she was six years old >> >and the marriage was consummated when she was nine years old. Narrated by >> >al-Bukhaari (4840) and Muslim (1422). >> > >> >Ulama Saudi ngaku bhw nabi keparatnya itu ngembat anak ingusan 9 thn, dan >> >ga ada batasan umur unt ngembat anak ingusan, asal si anak itu udah bisa >> >diembat, tentunya yg dimaksud adalah kontol orang Islam bisa masuk. Jadi >> >nabi Islam itu kepaksa nunggu sampe Aisha 9 thn baru diembat, biarpun si >> >Aisha udah jadi bininya di usia 6 thn. Tp si Aisha bisa jg koq dipake buat >> >ngejepit kontol nabi sambil ngelus2 kontol nabi. >> > >> >Masalahnya, apa orang Islam bisa baca tulisan dlm bhs Inggris ini? >> > >> >http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/146882 >> > >> >Is there a set age for marriage in Islam? >> >146882 >> >Fiqh of the family » Conditions of Marriage >> >Fiqh of the family » Rulings on Marriage >> > >> >Is there a set age for marriage in Islam? >> >ar - en >> > >> >Share | I would like to know whether there is a >> >set age for marriage in Islam for men and women? I hope you can explain >> >with reference to the Qur’aan and saheeh hadeeths. >> > >> >Praise be to Allaah. >> >Firstly: >> >Islam does not give a specific age for marriage, either for the husband or >> >for the wife. Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the >> >meaning): >> >“And for such of your women as despair of menstruation, if ye doubt, >> >their period (of waiting) shall be three months, along with those who have >> >it notâ€� >> >[al-Talaaq 65:4]. >> >Al-Sa‘di (may Allah have mercy on him) said: “along with those who >> >have it [menses] notâ€� means minors, those who have not yet started to >> >menstruate. Adult women who have never menstruated at all are like those >> >who “despair of menstruationâ€� (i.e., have passed menopause); their >> >‘iddah is three months. End quote. >> >Tafseer al-Sa‘di, p. 870 >> >The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) married >> >‘Aa’ishah (may Allah be pleased with her) when she was six years old >> >and the marriage was consummated when she was nine years old. Narrated by >> >al-Bukhaari (4840) and Muslim (1422). >> >Ibn Qudaamah (may Allah have mercy on him) said in al-Sharh al-Kabeer, >> >7/386: >> >With regard to females, the father may give his minor, virgin daughter who >> >has not yet reached the age of nine in marriage, and there is no >> >difference of opinion concerning that, if he gives her in marriage to >> >someone who is compatible. Ibn al-Mundhir said: All of those scholars from >> >whom we acquired knowledge unanimously agreed that it is permissible for a >> >father to give his minor daughter in marriage if he arranges her to someone >> > who is compatible, and it is permissible for him to do that even if she is >> > reluctant. End quote. >> >Secondly: >> >No one may give a minor daughter in marriage except her father according >> >to the view of Maalik and Ahmad. This was also the view of al-Shaafa‘i, >> >but he regarded the grandfather as being like the father in that regard. >> >Abu Haneefah said â€" and it was also narrated from Ahmad â€" that it is >> >permissible for a guardian other than the father to give (the minor girl) >> >in marriage, but the more correct view is the former one. >> >See: al-Mughni, 7/33 >> >Thirdly: >> >The father should not give a minor daughter in marriage except in a case >> >where he thinks it is in her best interests. Just as he may only dispose >> >of her wealth in that which is in her best interests, the same applies >> >with regard to arranging her marriage. Islam only permits that to the >> >Muslim father who is pious and pays proper attention to the best interests >> >of his children, and who understands very well that he is a shepherd and >> >that he is responsible for his flock. >> >Ibn Wahb narrated that Maalik said, with regard to a man arranging a >> >marriage for an orphan girl under his care: If he thinks that (the >> >husband) is a man of virtue, righteousness and wisdom, it is permissible >> >for him to do that. >> >Ahkaam al-Qur’aan by al-Jassaas, 2/342 >> >Fourthly: >> >A man should not consummate marriage with his young bride until she is >> >physically able to bear intercourse. This varies from one time, place and >> >environment to another. >> >For more information please see the answers to questions no. 22442 and >> >127176. >> >What young men and guardians of girls should do is hasten to arrange >> >marriages, so as to guard chastity and protect honour, and so as to attain >> >the great purposes for which Allah ordained marriage. >> >And Allah knows best. >> > >> >Islam Q&A >> > >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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