Hehehe... jadi ni orang ga percaya tafsir2, termasuk tafsir bin Kathir atau Jalalayn.
Dungu ga ni orang? >________________________________ >From: Musik hari Ini <musikhari...@yahoo.com> >To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" <proletar@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:54 AM >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Is there a set age for marriage in Islam? > > > >Gua kagak percaya tapsir2an dari anu bin anu,yang tolol itu elu >otak gua kagak goblok2 amat kayak elu,kapan kursus inggris? > >bergulat dengan agama yang bukan agama elu........bisa terjun bebas semaulu > >elu kira semua orang tolol kayak elu...... >Igama elu apasih kasih tau dong? >biar bisa klarifikasi > >________________________________ >From: item abu <item...@yahoo.com> >To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" <proletar@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:39 PM >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Is there a set age for marriage in Islam? > > >Hehehe.... tafsir bin Kathir, Jalalayn dll itu adalah tafsir2 tolol, kata >orang Islam. > >Kalo orang Islam itu punya otak, setelah mereka ngeliat isi tafsir, mereka itu >hrsnya mikir, koq ajaran Islam itu begitu konyol dan bejad, lalu mereka murtad. > >Setelah ngeliat kekonyolan dan kebejadan yg ada di tafsir tp terus jadi orang >Islam, maka orang itu ga punya otak sama sekali. > >>________________________________ >>From: Musik hari Ini <musikhari...@yahoo.com> >>To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" <proletar@yahoogroups.com> >>Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:35 PM >>Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Is there a set age for marriage in Islam? >> >> >> >>Orang tolol biasany akagak punya rasa malu seperti kamu itu >>bahasa inggris?buat apa mau jadi jongos iternational atau jadi gigolo >> >>kagak perlu baca tafsir2an tolol. >>gua punya otak bisa buat mikir apa saja >> >>yang super tolol itu kamu >>eh elu agamanya apaan sih? >> >>________________________________ >>From: item abu <item...@yahoo.com> >>To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" <proletar@yahoogroups.com> >>Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:42 AM >>Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Is there a set age for marriage in Islam? >> >> >>Hehehe.... lu ga ngerti bhs Inggris yah, makanya lu ga baca tafsir yg gua >>kutip itu. >> >>Udah tolol malahan kaing2 nunjukin tololnya orang Islam ini, betul2 super >>tolol. >> >>>________________________________ >>>From: Musik hari Ini <musikhari...@yahoo.com> >>>To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" <proletar@yahoogroups.com> >>>Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 5:20 PM >>>Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Is there a set age for marriage in Islam? >>> >>> >>> >>>Omong kosong tiap2 hari disini >>> >>>baca Quran dimana belajar nya? >>>jelas inikan omongan orang gila >>>tidak mungkin elu yang bukan islam >>>lebih pinter dari gua soal islam >>>karena elu terjun bebas disini >>>jadi keliatan licik >>> >>>pake lagi nafsirin hadis seenak bero lu >>> >>>emangnya sampeyan berotak sehat? >>> >>>________________________________ >>>From: itemabu <item...@yahoo.com> >>>To: proletar@yahoogroups.com >>>Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:07 AM >>>Subject: [proletar] Re: Is there a set age for marriage in Islam? >>> >>> >>>Hehehe.... asal gua ngeluarin ayat Quran dgn tafsir atau hadis pendukung, >>>orang Islam semua akan ngacir terkencing2 ngecawat ekor, ga berani ngejawab, >>>paling2 cuma kaing2 kayak anjing kejepit buntut. >>> >>>--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@...> wrote: >>>> >>>> Gua kasih 4 buah tafsir ayat >>>> 65:4 ditambah keterangan Maududi yg bilang terang2an bhw anak ingusan yg >>>> blm >>>> mens itu halal diembat oleh orang soleh dan bertaqwa, hehehe... >>>> Yg jadi masalah itu kan adalah >>>> ketololan orang2 Islam yg ga becus bhs Inggris dan jg mungkin ga kenal >>>> siapa >>>> itu Maududi misalnya. Orang2 Islam dungu ini mungkin kenalnya cuma tukang >>>> tipu >>>> kayak si Jeffry al Bukhori atau Abdullah Gymnastiar, atau bahkan cuma tau >>>> Tukul >>>> Arwana. >>>>  >>>> Tafsir Ibn Kathir >>>> Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause. >>>> And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. >>>> Her >>>> `Iddah is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who >>>> menstruate, which is based upon the Ayah in (Surat) Al-Baqarah. ï´¿see >>>> 2:228ï´¾ THE SAME FOR THE YOUNG, WHO >>>> HAVE NOT REACHED THE YEARS OF MENSTRUATION. Their `Iddah is three months >>>> like those in >>>> menopause. This is the meaning of His saying; >>>> (and for those who have no courses...) as for His saying; >>>>  (if you have doubt...) There are two >>>> opinions: First, is the saying of a group of the Salaf, like Mujahid, >>>> Az-Zuhri >>>> and Ibn Zayd. That is, if they see blood and there is doubt if it was >>>> menstrual >>>> blood or not. The second, is that if you do not know the ruling in this >>>> case, >>>> then know that their `Iddah is three months. This has been reported from >>>> Sa`id >>>> bin Jubayr and it is the view preferred by Ibn Jarir. And this is the more >>>> obvious meaning. Supporting this view is what is reported from Ubay bin >>>> Ka`b >>>> that he said, "O Allah's Messenger! Some women were not mentioned in the >>>> Qur'an, the young, the old and the pregnant.'' Allah the Exalted and Most >>>> Honored sent down this Ayah, >>>>  (Those in menopause among your women, >>>> for them the `Iddah, if you have doubt, is three months; and for those who >>>> have >>>> no courses. And for those who are pregnant, their `Iddah is until they lay >>>> down >>>> their burden.) Ibn Abi Hatim recorded a simpler narration than this one >>>> from >>>> Ubay bin Ka`b who said, "O Allah's Messenger! When the Ayah in Surat >>>> Al-Baqarah >>>> was revealed prescribing the `Iddah of divorce, some people in Al-Madinah >>>> said, >>>> `There are still some women whose `Iddah has not been mentioned in the >>>> Qur'an. >>>> There are THE YOUNG, the old whose menstruation is discontinued, and the >>>> pregnant.' Later on, this Ayah was revealed, >>>>  (Those in menopause among your women, >>>> for them the `Iddah, if you have doubt, is three months; and for those who >>>> have >>>> no courses.)'' >>>>  >>>> Tafsir al-Jalalayn >>>> And [as for] those of your women >>>> who (read allÄ�’ī or allÄ�’i in both instances) no longer expect to >>>> menstruate, >>>> if you have any doubts, about their waiting period, their prescribed >>>> [waiting] >>>> period shall be three months, and [also for] THOSE WHO HAVE >>>> NOT YET MENSTRUATED, BECAUSE OF THEIR YOUNG AGE, >>>> their period shall [also] be three months â€" both cases apply to other >>>> than >>>> those whose spouses have died; for these [latter] their period is >>>> prescribed in >>>> the verse: they shall wait by themselves for four months and ten [days] [Q. >>>> 2:234]. And those who are pregnant, their term, the conclusion of their >>>> prescribed [waiting] period if divorced or if their spouses be dead, shall >>>> be >>>> when they deliver. And whoever fears God, He will make matters ease for >>>> him, in >>>> this world and in the Hereafter. >>>>  >>>> Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs >>>> (And for such of your women as >>>> despair of menstruation) because of old age, (if ye doubt) about their >>>> waiting >>>> period, (their period (of waiting) shall be three months) upon which >>>> another >>>> man asked: “O Messenger of Allah! What about the waiting period OF THOSE >>>> WHO DO >>>> NOT HAVE MENSTRUATION BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO YOUNG?â€� (ALONG WITH THOSE WHO >>>> HAVE >>>> IT NOT) BECAUSE OF YOUNG AGE, their waiting period is three months. >>>> Another man >>>> asked: “what is the waiting period for those women who are pregnant?â€� >>>> (And for >>>> those with child) i.e. those who are pregnant, (their period) their waiting >>>> period (shall be till they bring forth their burden) their child. (And >>>> whosoever keepeth his duty to Allah) and whoever fears Allah regarding >>>> what he >>>> commands him, (He maketh his course easy for him) He makes his matter >>>> easy; and >>>> it is also said this means: He will help him to worship Him well. >>>>  >>>> Asbab Al-Nuzul by Al-Wahidi >>>> (And for such of your >>>> women as despair of menstruation…) [65:4]. Said Muqatil: “When the >>>> verse (Women >>>> who are divorced shall wait, keeping themselves apart…), Kallad ibn >>>> al-Nu‘man >>>> ibn Qays al-Ansari said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, what is the waiting >>>> period of >>>> the woman who does not menstruate and THE WOMAN WHO HAS NOT MENSTRUATED >>>> YET? >>>> And what is the waiting period of the pregnant woman?’ And so Allah, >>>> exalted is >>>> He, revealed this verseâ€�. Abu Ishaq al-Muqri’ informed us> Muhammad >>>> ibn ‘Abd >>>> Allah ibn Hamdun> Makki ibn ‘Abdan> Abu’l-Azhar> Asbat ibn Muhammad> >>>> Mutarrif> Abu ‘Uthman ‘Amr ibn Salim who said: “When the waiting >>>> period for >>>> divorced and widowed women was mentioned in Surah al-Baqarah, Ubayy ibn >>>> Ka‘b >>>> said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, some women of Medina are saying: there are >>>> other >>>> women who have not been mentioned!’ He asked him: ‘And who are >>>> they?’ He said: >>>> ‘THOSE WHO ARE TOO YOUNG [SUCH THAT THEY HAVE NOT STARTED MENSTRUATING >>>> YET], those >>>> who are too old [whose menstruation has stopped] and those who are >>>> pregnant’. >>>> And so this verse (And for such of your women as despair of >>>> menstruation…) was >>>> revealedâ€�. >>>>  >>>>  >>>> Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi - Tafhim al-Qur'an - The Meaning of the >>>> Qur'an >>>> 13They may not have menstruated as >>>> yet either BECAUSE OF YOUNG AGE, or delayed menstrual discharge as it >>>> happens >>>> in the case of some women, or because of no discharge at all throughout >>>> life >>>> which, though rare, may also be the case. In any case, the waiting-period >>>> of >>>> such a woman is the same as of the woman, who has stopped menstruation, >>>> that is >>>> three months from the time divorce was pronounced. >>>> Here, one should bear in >>>> mind the fact that according to the explanations given in the Qur'an the >>>> question of the waiting period arises in respect of the women with whom >>>> marriage may have been consummated, FOR THERE IS NO WAITING-PERIOD IN CASE >>>> DIVORCE IS PRONOUNCED BEFORE THE CONSUMMATION OF MARRIAGE. (AL-AHZAB: 49). >>>> Therefore, >>>> MAKING MENTION OF THE WAITING-PERIOD FOR THE GIRLS WHO HAVE NOT YET >>>> MENSTRUATED, CLEARLY PROVES THAT IT IS NOT ONLY PERMISSIBLE TO GIVE AWAY >>>> THE >>>> GIRL IN MARRIAGE AT THIS AGE BUT IT IS ALSO PERMISSIBLE FOR THE HUSBAND TO >>>> CONSUMMATE MARRIAGE WITH HER. Now, obviously no Muslim has the right to >>>> forbid >>>> a thing which the Qur'an has held as permissible. >>>> The girl who is divorced >>>> in the state when she has not yet menstruated and then she starts having >>>> the >>>> menses during the waiting-period, will reckon her waiting-period from the >>>> same >>>> menstruation and her waiting-period will be reckoned just like the woman >>>> who >>>> menstruates regularly. >>>>  >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >________________________________ >>>> >From: item abu <itemabu@...> >>>> >To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" <proletar@yahoogroups.com> >>>> >Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 6:14 PM >>>> >Subject: [proletar] Is there a set age for marriage in Islam? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) married >>>> >‘Aa’ishah (may Allah be pleased with her) when she was six years old >>>> >and the marriage was consummated when she was nine years old. Narrated by >>>> > al-Bukhaari (4840) and Muslim (1422). >>>> > >>>> >Ulama Saudi ngaku bhw nabi keparatnya itu ngembat anak ingusan 9 thn, dan >>>> >ga ada batasan umur unt ngembat anak ingusan, asal si anak itu udah bisa >>>> >diembat, tentunya yg dimaksud adalah kontol orang Islam bisa masuk. Jadi >>>> >nabi Islam itu kepaksa nunggu sampe Aisha 9 thn baru diembat, biarpun si >>>> >Aisha udah jadi bininya di usia 6 thn. Tp si Aisha bisa jg koq dipake >>>> >buat ngejepit kontol nabi sambil ngelus2 kontol nabi. >>>> > >>>> >Masalahnya, apa orang Islam bisa baca tulisan dlm bhs Inggris ini? >>>> > >>>> >http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/146882 >>>> > >>>> >Is there a set age for marriage in Islam? >>>> >146882 >>>> >Fiqh of the family » Conditions of Marriage >>>> >Fiqh of the family » Rulings on Marriage >>>> > >>>> >Is there a set age for marriage in Islam? >>>> >ar - en >>>> > >>>> >Share | I would like to know whether there is a >>>> >set age for marriage in Islam for men and women? I hope you can explain >>>> >with reference to the Qur’aan and saheeh hadeeths. >>>> > >>>> >Praise be to Allaah. >>>> >Firstly: >>>> >Islam does not give a specific age for marriage, either for the husband >>>> >or for the wife. Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the >>>> >meaning): >>>> >“And for such of your women as despair of menstruation, if ye doubt, >>>> >their period (of waiting) shall be three months, along with those who >>>> >have it notâ€� >>>> >[al-Talaaq 65:4]. >>>> >Al-Sa‘di (may Allah have mercy on him) said: “along with those who >>>> >have it [menses] notâ€� means minors, those who have not yet started to >>>> >menstruate. Adult women who have never menstruated at all are like those >>>> >who “despair of menstruationâ€� (i.e., have passed menopause); their >>>> >‘iddah is three months. End quote. >>>> >Tafseer al-Sa‘di, p. 870 >>>> >The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) married >>>> >‘Aa’ishah (may Allah be pleased with her) when she was six years old >>>> >and the marriage was consummated when she was nine years old. Narrated by >>>> > al-Bukhaari (4840) and Muslim (1422). >>>> >Ibn Qudaamah (may Allah have mercy on him) said in al-Sharh al-Kabeer, >>>> >7/386: >>>> >With regard to females, the father may give his minor, virgin daughter >>>> >who has not yet reached the age of nine in marriage, and there is no >>>> >difference of opinion concerning that, if he gives her in marriage to >>>> >someone who is compatible. Ibn al-Mundhir said: All of those scholars >>>> >from whom we acquired knowledge unanimously agreed that it is >>>> >permissible for a father to give his minor daughter in marriage if he >>>> >arranges her to someone who is compatible, and it is permissible for him >>>> >to do that even if she is reluctant. End quote. >>>> >Secondly: >>>> >No one may give a minor daughter in marriage except her father according >>>> >to the view of Maalik and Ahmad. This was also the view of >>>> >al-Shaafa‘i, but he regarded the grandfather as being like the father >>>> >in that regard. Abu Haneefah said â€" and it was also narrated from >>>> >Ahmad â€" that it is permissible for a guardian other than the father to >>>> >give (the minor girl) in marriage, but the more correct view is the >>>> >former one. >>>> >See: al-Mughni, 7/33 >>>> >Thirdly: >>>> >The father should not give a minor daughter in marriage except in a case >>>> >where he thinks it is in her best interests. Just as he may only dispose >>>> >of her wealth in that which is in her best interests, the same applies >>>> >with regard to arranging her marriage. Islam only permits that to the >>>> >Muslim father who is pious and pays proper attention to the best >>>> >interests of his children, and who understands very well that he is a >>>> >shepherd and that he is responsible for his flock. >>>> >Ibn Wahb narrated that Maalik said, with regard to a man arranging a >>>> >marriage for an orphan girl under his care: If he thinks that (the >>>> >husband) is a man of virtue, righteousness and wisdom, it is permissible >>>> >for him to do that. >>>> >Ahkaam al-Qur’aan by al-Jassaas, 2/342 >>>> >Fourthly: >>>> >A man should not consummate marriage with his young bride until she is >>>> >physically able to bear intercourse. This varies from one time, place >>>> >and environment to another. >>>> >For more information please see the answers to questions no. 22442 and >>>> >127176. >>>> >What young men and guardians of girls should do is hasten to arrange >>>> >marriages, so as to guard chastity and protect honour, and so as to >>>> >attain the great purposes for which Allah ordained marriage. >>>> >And Allah knows best. >>>> > >>>> >Islam Q&A >>>> > >>>> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>> >>> >>>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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