Edan.. Abbas Amin juga sudah edan. "item abu" yang berhati-hati di Indonesia yang adalah salah satu negeri tempat teroris Islam tukang bacok dan tukang bantai gentayangan dibulang pengecut.
Edan.. Abbas Amin juga sudah edan. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Abbas" <abas_amin08@...> wrote: > > Pengecut disebut HATI2 itulah GAYAorang Anti Islam membela KONCONYA ! Tapi > tetap tak menutup fakta bahwa si DEBIL memang pengecut ! > Nahkan dirinya sendiri sudh tersudut; dan diakui oleh KONCO yang dia bela ! > Eeee malah si Pedundu muter2 tak terima dikatai tersudut dan DUNGU ! Memang > manusia kaya elo Pedundu mau disebut PINTAR !?????? > Wawan saja yang tahu gravitasi MALU disebut pinter ! > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > Edan.. > > > > Abbas Amin juga sudah edan. > > > > Dia tidak bisa lagi membedakan antara, disatu pihak, sikap hati-hati "item > > abu" yang memakai nama samaran karena orang Islam di Indonesia rajin > > membantai dan membacoki orang kafir dan dilain pihak, orang Islam pengcut > > yang suka lempar batu sembunyi tangan seperti johny-indon yang tidak perlu > > takut dibantai oleh orang Islam.. > > > > Edan.. > > > > Abbas Amin juga sudah edan. > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Abbas" <abas_amin08@> wrote: > > > > > > Elo gak malu tuh; ngomong kaya begitu ke orang lain ? > > > Tapi memang dasarnya orng anti Islam itu SELURUHNYA Pengecut dan tak tahu > > > malu ! Elo pake nama PALSU ! How in the world, kamu berani ngomong > > > seperti itu ke orang lain !? > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Lu ngasih tau nama dan alamat lu aja ga berani koq, padahal ga bakal > > > > ada yg ngambil tindakan ke lu. > > > > > > > > Sebaliknya, hehehe... ga tau ada berapa orang yg bilang mau ngebunuh > > > > gua, tp kayaknya si auloh kagak berkehendak tuh, atau si auloh kagak > > > > berani ngelawan anjing gua shg ga bisa ngebunuh gua. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@> > > > > >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > > >Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 4:04 PM > > > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Definisi untuk mobil mewah (Teddy bangsat itu, > > > > >katanya, tidak peduli..) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >di sini banyak orang nasrani yg pake nama asli, david silalahi, > > > > >suryana, dll., mereka mau ngomong apa aja tetep aman tuh hidup > > > > >di indonesia. > > > > >apalagi si david salah lahir itu gua udah tau tampang blo'onnya kayak > > > > >apa. > > > > >kenapa mesti ati2 segala? > > > > > > > > > >nah si bleki petantang petenteng nantang orang lain nyebutin > > > > >identitas pribadi tapi dia sendiri ngga berani nyebutin > > > > >identitas sendiri, mesti disebut apa kalo bukan pengecut sejati? > > > > > > > > > >--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Agar jelas: orang Nasrani yang berhati-hati tapi terus berusaha > > > > >>mempertahankan haknya bukan orang Nasrani yang pengecut.. > > > > >> > > > > >> Yang pengecut itu adalah oportunis bertabit nista lagi menjijikkan > > > > >> seperti anda yang berdiam diri dihadapan penindasan orang Islam > > > > >> terhadap minoritas dan dihadapan ketidak adilan di Indonesia. > > > > >> > > > > >> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." <teddyr@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Kalau sebelumnya itu baru berupa tuduhan, sekarang sudah terbukti > > > > >> > berdasarkan hasil pengakuannya sendiri. Kurang jelas apa lagi? > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> > > > > >> > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Persis kayak Roman Proteus yang sedeng: item abu, katanya, > > > > >> > > adalah pengecut... > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Makin jelas bahwa memang banyak persamaan antara Teddy ini > > > > >> > > dengan orang Islam disini... > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." <teddyr@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Pengecut!!! (ala film-film Amerika dengan diiringi nada-nada > > > > >> > > > dari lagu kebangsaan Perancis, La Marseillaise). > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Hehehe ... gua sih ga heran kalo si Teddy bisa galak dan > > > > >> > > > > buas kalo ngebela kepentingannya sendiri. Anjing jg bisa > > > > >> > > > > galak kalo tulangnya mau diambil anjing lain. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Tp si Teddy ini lebih rendah dr anjing krn ga tau malu > > > > >> > > > > padahal anjing itu mash tahu malu. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >________________________________ > > > > >> > > > > > From: Teddy S. <teddyr@> > > > > >> > > > > >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > > >> > > > > >Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 3:00 AM > > > > >> > > > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Definisi untuk mobil mewah (Teddy > > > > >> > > > > >bangsat itu, katanya, tidak peduli..) > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >à> > > > >> > > > > >Apakah pejabat tersebut menyadarinya? Itu perbuatan yang > > > > >> > > > > >sama sia-sianya dengan membenturkan kepala sendiri ke > > > > >> > > > > >tembok. Saat saya dulu berurusan dengan pawai Pemilu Partai > > > > >> > > > > >Golkar, rombongan tersebut saya kejar hingga ke markas > > > > >> > > > > >mereka di Menteng, Jakarta. Saya temui kepala rombongan > > > > >> > > > > >mereka, saya jelaskan masalahnya dan saya tuntut permohonan > > > > >> > > > > >maaf dengan memberikan nama dan alamat di mana sang kepala > > > > >> > > > > >rombongan berjanji untuk mengirim orang ke rumah. Itu > > > > >> > > > > >contoh yang langsung bisa dirasakan pejabat terkait. > > > > >> > > > > >Protege anda ini luar biasa pengecutnya. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >Satu hal, saya di sini bekerja dan bisa dikatakan > > > > >> > > > > >kontribusi saya melebihi semua fasilitas yang kami terima. > > > > >> > > > > >Sebetulnya saya lebih menghendaki sistem perpajakan seperti > > > > >> > > > > >di AS berlaku di Australia di mana potongan pajak jauh > > > > >> > > > > >lebih rendah. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >Simpan kata-kata busuk anda bagi orang-orang yang > > > > >> > > > > >ongkang-ongkang kaki tanpa bekerja dengan memanfaatkan uang > > > > >> > > > > >pajak orang banyak. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" > > > > >> > > > > ><bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Pertama: menolak undangan bedebah, seerti yagn dilakukan > > > > >> > > > > >> item abu itu artinya tidak berdiam diri dihadapan > > > > >> > > > > >> kejahatan yang dilakukan bedebah itu. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Kedua: sepanjang yang menyangkut kegiatan saya sejak > > > > >> > > > > >> tahun 1972 hingga Orde Naru jatuh, saya bisa bilang, > > > > >> > > > > >> disamping mendiang Ernst Utrecht dan sahabat saya Lim, > > > > >> > > > > >> saya adalah orang Indonesia yang dari negeri Belanda yang > > > > >> > > > > >> ikut mendukung usaha orang di Indonesia menjatuhkan Orde > > > > >> > > > > >> Baru. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Saya tidak sekedar bersenang-senang di negeri orang > > > > >> > > > > >> menikmati jaminan sosial dan jaminan ksehatan yagn aduhai > > > > >> > > > > >> seperti anda yagn adalah manusia oportunis yang bertabiat > > > > >> > > > > >> busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." <teddyr@> > > > > >> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > Ha ha ha. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > Tidak datang memenuhi undangan dan membenturkan kepala > > > > >> > > > > >> > sendiri ke tembok itu sama-sama tak ada artinya. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > Coba anda bercermin diri dan melihat apakah ada > > > > >> > > > > >> > perubahan besar yang telah terjadi di Indonesia yang > > > > >> > > > > >> > merupakan hasil "perjuangan" anda selama ini? > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > Di sini semuanya tidak gratis dan malahan saya masih > > > > >> > > > > >> > menyumbang orang lain. Sementara ada cukup banyak yang > > > > >> > > > > >> > menjadi 'dole bludgers' yang sebagiannya enak-enak > > > > >> > > > > >> > berselancar tiap harinya. Anda kira orang-orang ini > > > > >> > > > > >> > pantas menerima santunan? > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" > > > > >> > > > > >> > <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > "item abu" menyatakan pendapatnya dengan tidak datang > > > > >> > > > > >> > > memenuhi undangan yang disampaikan kepadanya.. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > Ini satu. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > Yagn kedua: anda itu oportunis busuk, nisgtfa lagi > > > > >> > > > > >> > > menjijikkan karena anda enak-enak hidup di negeri > > > > >> > > > > >> > > yang punya jaminan sosial dan jaminan kesehatan yagn > > > > >> > > > > >> > > aduhai, hasil perjuangan orang yang peduli akan > > > > >> > > > > >> > > kesenjangan sosial, lalua nda bicara tentang mobil > > > > >> > > > > >> > > mewah dan anda tidak peduli dengan kejahatan yang > > > > >> > > > > >> > > dilakukan oleh para bedebah yang menjarah khasanah > > > > >> > > > > >> > > negara Indonsia - sembari merek menghina korban > > > > >> > > > > >> > > jarahannnnya yang jadi melarat dengan petatagng > > > > >> > > > > >> > > petiting dengan mobil mewah hasil jarahannya. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > Anda itu betulk-betul adalah bangsat oppotunis busuk, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > nista lagi menjijikkan. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." <teddyr@> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Tidak usah jauh-jauh, tuh protege satu-satunya > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > kebanggan anda tidak berani mengungkapkan > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > pendapatnya sendiri pada tetangga yang tinggal di > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > depan rumahnya. Itu yang jelas-jelas langkah yang > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > merupakan feedback langsung dan mungkin, ini sih > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > masih mungkin bisa memberikan perubahan. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Apa haknya saya mencampuri yang bukan wewenang saya > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > karena mereka tidak mewakili saya? Anda mau > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > mencampuri, maka itu urusan anda sendiri. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Saya membayar restribusi untuk semua fasilitas yang > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > saya dan ibu saya terima di Australia. Kalau > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > dihitung hingga dengan sen-sen yang dikeluarkan, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > maka kontribusi saya selama ini masih lebih banyak > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > daripada nilai fasilitas yang didapat. Jadi ini > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > tidak gratis dan saya malah menyumbang untuk orang > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > lain selama ini. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Jadi fasilitas ini tidak gratis dan saya membayar > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > penuh. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Betul-betul bajingan tengik. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Betul-betul bangsat keparat. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Betul-betul manusia oportunis bertabiat busuk, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > nista lagi menjijikkan. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Bukan urusannya, katanya, pejabat Indonesia > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > menjarah khasanah negara Indonesia dan menjadikan > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Indonesia dedel duwel lalu menghina korban > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > jarahannnya yang dimelaratkannnya sembari > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > petatang petiting pamer mobil mewah dan pamer > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > kekayaan.. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Saat dia, Teddy, menikmati jaminan kesehatan yang > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > aduhai di Austrlia, hasil perjuangan orang > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Australia yang seperti item abu peduli terhadap > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > kesenjangan sosial. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Selanjutnya: tidak peduli dengan adanya kejahatan > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > yang dilakukan pejabat bedebah di Indonesia itu > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > hakekatnya berpihak kepada pejabat penjahat itu. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > <teddyr@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Ada perbedaan besar antara berfihak dan tidak > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > peduli. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > Asyik... > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > Sekarang Teddy berpihak kepada penguasa > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > bedebah di Indonesia yang petatang petiting > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > pamer hasil jarahan mereka... > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > Dan di Indonesia mobil mahal itu adalah > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > sinonim dengan mobil mewah... > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > <teddyr@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > Gawat, si belegug ini kagak bisa menyimak. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > Lu jelas-jelas terobsesi dengan mobil-mobil > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > mewah di mana lu punya definisi sendiri > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > untuk yang namanya mobil-mobil mewah. Buat > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > lu asal harganya relatif mahal, maka itu > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > pastilah mobil mewah. Padahal mobil-mobil > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > pejabat yang lu recokin itu tidak termasuk > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > kategori mobil-mobil mewah dalam definisi > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > standar seperti yang disebutkan dalam > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > WIKIPEDIA. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > Gua dalam hal ini tidak terlibat. Hak sang > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > pejabat untuk punya mobil apapun juga. Gua > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > sih sama sekali tidak peduli karena bukan > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > urusan gua. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Hehehe.. si keparat Teddy ini muter2 > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > lidah dan nambah dosanya dgn bikin fitnah > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > baru. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Gua cuma minta si Teddy ngebuktikan > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ocehannya sendiri, lalu si Teddy ngoceh > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > seolah2 gua pernah ngelarang dia make > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > duitnya sendiri. Kapan tuh gua pernah > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ngelarang si Teddy make duitnya sendiri > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > sesuka hatinya? Yg gua bilang adalah si > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Teddy adalah bajingan rakus dan serakah, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > bajingan yg ga peduli dgn orang lain, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > bukan ngelarang si Teddy make duit sesuka > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > hatinya. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Udah jelas si Teddy ini ga bisa > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ngebuktikan ocehannya, tp dasar bajingan > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ga tau malu, dia msh ga mau ngaku bhw > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > mulutnya adalah lobang taik, padahal dia > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > sendiri yg bilang kalo orang ga bisa > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ngebuktikan omongannya, maka ybs itu > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > bermulut lobang taik. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Emang tuh, dr mulut anjing ga akan tumbuh > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > gading. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > From: Teddy S. <teddyr@> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 7:03 AM > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Definisi untuk > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >mobil mewah > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >Ãâà> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >Gua kagak pernah secara explisit > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >menyebut mobil-mobil mewah seperti yang > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >lu lakukan. Peduli amat dengan > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >orang-orang yang memilikinya, karena itu > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >urusan pribadi orang. Hak orang untuk > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >punya dan yang pasti duitnya bukan dari > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >lu. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Dan lu kaing2 gua terobsesi oleh mobil > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> mewah. Dasar mulut lobang taik lu ini. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >________________________________ > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > From: Teddy S. <teddyr@> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 4:45 > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >AM > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Definisi > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >untuk mobil mewah > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >Terjemahan dari google karena > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >takutnya kesulitan menterjemahkan: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> Ada mobil ultra-tinggi kinerja > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> dari "merek eksotis" yang juga > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> melebihi US $ 100.000, tetapi > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> belum tentu dikategorikan sebagai > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> mobil mewah, seperti sebagai mobil > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> sport dari Ferrari, Lamborghini > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> dan Porsche, meskipun Porsche > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> Panamera bersaing dalam kemewahan > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> high-end / ukuran penuh kategori > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> mewah. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >"Teddy S." <teddyr@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> Sudah terbukti anda yang dungu tapi > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> tidak mau langsung mengaku dan > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> orang yang berotak busuk, nista > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> lagi menjijikan adalah orang yang > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> fikiran-fikirannya saling > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> bertentangan dan hanya mementingkan > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> glorifikasi pribadi sendiri. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> Baca dengan cermat DEFINISI mobil > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> mewah di mana unsur HARGA bukanlah > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> satu-satunya kriteria. Semua orang > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> normal akan tahu bahwa Ferrari itu > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> merk sebuah mobil sport. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> Kalau memang anda cermerlang > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> tentunya anda akan mampu merubah > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> definisi yang diberikan WIKIPEDIA > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> hingga WIKIPEDIA mau meralat dan > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> memasukan Ferrari sebagai salah > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> satu mobil yang termasuk dalam > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> klasifikasi mobil mewah. Saya > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> tantang anda untuk melakukan hal > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> itu terhadap WIKIPEDIA. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> Sekali lagi untuk yang diragukan > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> apakah mereka punya mata atau cuma > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> baso doang. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > There are ultra-high > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > performance cars from "exotic > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > brands" that also exceed > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > US$100,000, but would not > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > necessarily be categorized as > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury automobiles, such as the > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > sports cars from Ferrari, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Lamborghini and Porsche, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > although the Porsche Panamera > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > does compete in the high-end > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury/full-size luxury > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > category. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > Saya kutip, tanpa komentar karena > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > begitu jelas dungunya, referensi > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > Teddy yang > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > adalah manusia oportunis berotak > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan ini > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > tentang mobil mewah: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > "Dengan demikian bisa dikatakan > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > Ferrari TIDAK termasuk kedalam > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > kelas mobil > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > mewah, walau harganya sendiri > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > relatif mahal. " > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > "Teddy S." <teddyr@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Aneh bin ajaib kalau ada orang > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > yang merasa dirinya demikian > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > pintar dan rajin menggugel > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > dalam hal-hal lain, tapi masih > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > ngotot dengan definisinya > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > sendiri atas "mobil-mobil > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mewah". > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Mumpung masih pagi dan ada > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > sedikit waktu, jadi bolehlah > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > sedikit berbelas kasihan > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > meluangkan waktu untuk membantu > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > membuka mata. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > --- > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Luxury vehicle is a marketing > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > term for a vehicle that > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > provides luxury > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬" > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > pleasant or desirable features > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > beyond strict > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > necessityÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬"at > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > increased expense (see: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > definition of luxury). The term > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > suggests a vehicle with greater > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > equipment, performance, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > construction precision, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > comfort, design ingenuity, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > technological innovation, or > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > features that convey brand > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > image, cachet, status, or > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > prestigeÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬"or > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > any other discretionary > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > feature or combination of > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > features. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Luxury market segments > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Premium compact segment > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The premium compact > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > segment[clarification needed] > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > or small-luxury class is > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > relatively new, having been > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > initiated by several European > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > brands in the mid-2000s, and > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > constitute the least expensive > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > offerings in their lineups. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > These cars are targeted at a > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > niche market of young customers > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > who have a more refined taste > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > in their automobiles and the > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > means to pay for them.[citation > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > needed] By offering a smaller, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > lighter, more fuel-efficient, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and less expensive vehicle, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > this serves to introduce a > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > younger customer to the luxury > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > marque, in hopes of retaining > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the coveted customer > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > loyalty.[citation needed] This > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > includes the Audi A3, BMW 1 > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Series, Lexus CT, and > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Mercedes-Benz B-Class. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Premium compacts may share > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > components with mass market > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars from the marque's parent > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > company (the A3), and/or have > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > less sophisticated platforms > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > compared to upmarket vehicles > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > in the lineup (such as the > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > B-Class). The body style tends > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > to be a hatchback or compact > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > wagon, previously associated > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > with economy cars but regaining > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > popularity in the United States > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > for its afforded utility. The > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury branding and style, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > high-quality interior > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > materials, wide range of > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > convenience features, and > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > performance powertrains are key > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > to distinguishing them from > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mass market equivalents (one > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mistake made by the Cadillac > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Cimarron) and making these > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > appeal to consumers. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The classification varies, for > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > instance Consumer Guide > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Automotive in the US considers > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the Audi A3 and A4 as part of > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the premium compact segment due > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > to similar size and MSRP, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > though these are known in > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Europe as a small family car > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and a compact executive car, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > respectively. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Entry-level luxury/compact > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > executive cars > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The entry-level luxury category > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > is also known as the compact > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > executive car in Britain and > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > (Mittelklasse in German). In > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the US, this segment mostly > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > includes the bottom vehicles in > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the line-up of luxury brands as > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > well as the top-of-the-line > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > models of some non-luxury > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > brands. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Dimensionally, compact > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > executive cars are smaller than > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mid-size/large family cars, and > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > sometimes even smaller than > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > compact cars. Mass market > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > compact cars typically use the > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > economical front wheel drive > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > transverse engine layout, well > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > suited to the inline-4 engine, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > which also maximizes interior > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > room. Several compact executive > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars are rear-wheel drive with > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > longitudinal engines, for > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > improved stability and > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > handling, and in order to > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > accommodate the larger size of > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > higher-performance engines > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > (straight-6, V6, rarely V8), > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > with four-wheel drive often > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > being available. Compact > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > executive cars also tend have > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > more complicated independent > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > suspensions, sportier > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > transmissions, and high > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > revolution engines that may > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > require premium gasoline. The > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > more complex powertrain and > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mechanical layouts of compact > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > executive cars comes at > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > increased cost and reduced > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > interior passenger and trunk > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > space. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Compact executive cars include > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the Volvo S60, Acura TSX, Lexus > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > IS, BMW 3 Series, Audi A4, and > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Mercedes-Benz C-Class which > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > particularly emphasize sporty > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > handling. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Other vehicles such as the > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Lexus ES, Acura TL, Chrysler > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > 300, and Buick LaCrosse are > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > also considered entry-level > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury in the United States and > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Canada, being similar in price > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > to the BMW 3 Series and > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Mercedes-Benz C-Class. However, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the ES, TL, and LaCrosse are > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > not sold in Europe and do not > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > fall under European luxury > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > classifications. The ES and TL > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > actually began as badge > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > engineered versions of the > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > midsize Toyota Camry and Honda > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Accord, respectively, retaining > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the front wheel drive > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > transverse engine layout, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > whereas Toyota's current Lexus > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > IS does not share a platform > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > with mass market Toyota cars. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The ES and TL are not > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > considered executive cars > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > either, despite similar > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > dimensions, since executive > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars usually emphasize higher > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > performance, often being > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > rear-wheel drive with > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > longitudinal engines. The > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > present iterations of the ES > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and LaCrosse emphasize > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > "comfortable, reasonably priced > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury", while the TL has > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > recently been > > > > targeted at > > > > >> > > > > the entry-level > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > luxury > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> sport market. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Recently, the entry-level > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury has been very > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > competitive, and there has been > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > price-overlapping with > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > well-equipped non-luxury cars. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The bestselling vehicles of the > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > marque are frequently compact > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > executive cars, such as the BMW > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > 3 Series that makes up 40% of > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the vehicles that BMW sells > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > worldwide. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Mid-luxury/executive cars > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The mid-luxury segment are > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > commonly referred to as > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > executive cars in Britain, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Obere Mittelklasse in German, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and Grandes > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > RoutiÃÆ'Ã'Ãâères in > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > French. Examples include the > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Volvo S80, BMW 5 Series, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Mercedes-Benz E-Class, and > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Jaguar XF > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Although having similar > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > dimensions to mid-size cars and > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > large family cars, executive > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars are engineered and > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > positioned as premium vehicles > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > with better performance and > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > technology amenities. There are > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > also higher development and > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > production costs, as many > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > well-known mid-luxury cars use > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the longitudinal (usually front > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > engine rear wheel drive layout) > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > engine mounting which affords > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > space for powerful engines such > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > as a V8, instead of the more > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > economical transverse engine > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > layout of mass market cars > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > which are restricted to > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > inline-4 or V6. Executive cars > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > usually have lower sales and > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > production volumes compared to > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mid-size cars and large family > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars, as base trims with less > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > equipment and smaller engines > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > are not sold in U.S. and > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Canadian markets. Also due to > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the problem of steep > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > depreciation, especially > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > concerning cars from less > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > prestigious brands, most > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > executive cars are produced by > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > marques that specialize in > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > larger/more > > > > expensive > > > > >> > > > > vehicles. Particularly in > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> the United States, the mid-luxury > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> segment is dominated by Mercedes-Benz > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> and BMW, as executive cars from > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> lesser-known manufacturers such as > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> CitroÃÆ'Ã'Ãâën and Infiniti > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> have not had much success. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Vehicles in this segment > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > include the mid-range models of > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > several luxury car > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > manufacturers. There are also > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > some flagship sedans in this > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > segment, such as the Acura RL > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and Infiniti M. Executive cars > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > such as the BMW 5 Series are > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > crucial to a luxury automaker's > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > bottom line, and although not > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the highest-selling model, they > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > generate a significant amount > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > of profits due to the lucrative > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > technology options. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > High-end luxury/full-size > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury cars > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Also known as full-size luxury > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars, grand saloons, or premium > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > large cars, while "Oberklasse" > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > is used in Germany. Many of > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > these are the marque's > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > showcases for the newest > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > automotive technology. Several > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > nameplates also offer > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > long-wheelbase versions that > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > offer additional rear legroom > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and amenities. Full-size luxury > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars sold in Canada and the > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > U.S. typically have > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mid-displacement V8 engines, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > though recently some marques > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > have offered six cylinder > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > powerplants but without much > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > success. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Vehicles in this category > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > include some of the models from > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the flagship lines of luxury > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > car brands. Examples include > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Jaguar XJ, Lexus LS, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Mercedes-Benz S-Class, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Volkswagen Phaeton, and in the > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > US, the Lincoln Town Car and > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Cadillac DTS. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Ultra-luxury cars > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > R.L. Polk and Company, a global > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > automotive information and > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > marketing firm that provides > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > solutions to automotive and > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > related industries, has defined > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the term "super luxury" segment > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > for luxury cars costing more > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > than US$100,000. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > This bracket includes the > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > entire lineup of Rolls Royce, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Bentley, Aston Martin, Maybach, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and Maserati, as these marques > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > do not offer lower-priced > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > offerings in the entry-level > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury or mid-luxury segments > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > like more mainstream luxury > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > brands like BMW and > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Mercedes-Benz. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Rolls Royce and Bentley have > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > attempted to move downmarket > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > somewhat with offerings priced > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > considerably lower than their > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > traditional offerings (Rolls > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Royce Phantom and Bentley > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Mulsanne) such as the Rolls > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Royce Ghost and the Bentley > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Continental GT, creating what > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Car and Driver describes as the > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > "entry-opulent segment". > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Bentley, Maybach, and > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Rolls-Royce vehicles share > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > platforms and engines with > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > other luxury brands from their > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > parent auto company, however > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Rolls-Royce and Bentley are > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > assembled in England (separate > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > from the rest of BMW and > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Volkswagen Group's production > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > plants) and this "exclusivity" > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > has made these British marques > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > a sales success. By comparison, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Maybachs are built alongside > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the Mercedes-Benz S-Class > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > flagship sedan which has > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > explained why it has not fared > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > well in the market, furthermore > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the Maybach's pedigree was > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > virtually unknown outside of > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Germany unlike its British > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > rivals which have long enjoyed > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > renown > > > > worldwide. A > > > > >> > > > > Bentley executive was > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> quoted as saying "that the brand's > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> exclusivity, history and obsessive > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> luxury help to convince customers that > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> a Bentley is worth the price" which is > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> at least twice that of a flagship > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> luxury car from BMW or Mercedes-Benz. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The top-performing variants of > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > flagship cars from Audi, BMW, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and Mercedes-Benz are often > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > included here as well. They > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > often have 12-cylinder (usually > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > V12) engines for great > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > refinement and smoothness, even > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > though contemporary V8 engines > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > can make similar output while > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > being less expensive. While BMW > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > sells far fewer V12-engined > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > 7-Series vehicles than V8 > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > versions, the V12 retains > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > popularity in the US, China, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and Russia, as well as > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > maintaining the marque's > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > prestige in the luxury vehicle > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > market segment. These > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > ultra-luxury trims also feature > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > standard luxury and technology > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > features that would be > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > considered optional on their V8 > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > siblings. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > There are ultra-high > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > performance cars from "exotic > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > brands" that also exceed > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > US$100,000, but would not > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > necessarily be categorized as > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury automobiles, such as the > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > sports cars from Ferrari, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Lamborghini and Porsche, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > although the Porsche Panamera > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > does compete in the high-end > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury/full-size luxury > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > category. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > --- > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Jadi berdasarkan informasi yang > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > diberikan oleh WIKIPEDIA, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Toyota bukanlah merk mobil > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mewah (baca lagi definisinya di > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > atas) untuk kelas mobil mewah > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Toyota punya merk sendiri, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > yaitu L.... (cari sendiri > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > jawabnya, jangan mau disuapin > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > aja). > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Berdasarkan pernyataan > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > WIKIPEDIA pada > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxury_vehicle: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > There are ultra-high > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > performance cars from "exotic > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > brands" that also exceed > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > US$100,000, but would not > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > necessarily be categorized as > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury automobiles, such as the > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > sports cars from Ferrari, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Lamborghini and Porsche, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > although the Porsche Panamera > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > does compete in the high-end > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury/full-size luxury > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > category. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Dengan demikian bisa dikatakan > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Ferrari TIDAK termasuk kedalam > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > kelas mobil mewah, walau > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > harganya sendiri relatif mahal. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Saat dulu berdiskusi dengan > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > johny, kami sedang > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > memperbincangkan kenikmatan > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > berkendaraan dengan akselerasi > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > tinggi, bukannya > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > memperbincangkan mobil mewah. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Baca lagi itu tulisan. Mengutip > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > kata-kata guru wanita SMA kami > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > di Bandung dulu (kebetulan > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > beliau berdarah Ambon) yang > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mengajar pelajaran bahasa > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Jerman: "Meneer, itu mata apa > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > baso, Meneer?" > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Gaploki kepala sendiri 10 kali > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > karena sudah membuang waku > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > orang untuk menerangkan sesuatu > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > yang bisa dicari sendiri. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> [Non-text portions of this message > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> have been removed] > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > been removed] > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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