On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 10:21:12AM -0400, Dan wrote: > This is all highly opinionated, but here are some of my suggestions. > > I think you should consider changing domain names. I don't think the > name Pylons is bad, just combined with the domain pylonshq.com it just > doesn't stick. I'd suggest using pylonsframework.org for the following > reasons: > > .org - Eludes to an open source/non-profit. If Pylons is open > source/non-profit I think its a feature that you should mention to your > visitors... I didn't see licensing information anywhere on the homepage? > > pylonsframework - Eludes to Pylons being a framework right in the > domain. I'd click on a URL for pylonsframework.org before pylonshq.com.
I second every single word of the above statement. pylonshq.com is really a weird URL. IMHO "djangoproject.com" suffers from similar problems like "pylonshq.com". They are .com(mercial) and they are a project instead of a creator of some software. Everything with "project" sounds like new-age jargon for a music band. pylonsproject.org is it. Or maybe pylons-framework.org. > In general, the things that brought me to Pylons was the 1) speed and > libraries of Python and 2) MVC development. Both are not even mentioned > on the homepage. It should be in the first paragraph. WSGI seems > important, even if I didn't know why, but not a reason I'd choose Pylons > over another framework. It has taken a while until I understood the meaning of it. And many web developer will hardly care about WSGI. Writting middleware is not a job for a coffee break unless it's your daily business. > Its not something that I would say in the first > paragraph. I'd say that most people care about two things: speed (both > development time and application performance) and stability. These two > key points should be the focus of the introduction, to grab the visitors > attention. Hmmm, speed and stability. I'd rather outline fun and production-savvyness. "paster shell" is fun. "--reload" is fun. The online debugger is fun. And its community - small but great. > I do think Pylons is flexible, which can be a feature, but > it can also be a hindrance... especially for newbies. Thats tricky. It's very likely not a feature for newbies. I was scared by it. And while I write some more documentation on Pylons I'm increasingly scared the more I see. Well, soon I'll be a guru perhaps and Ben et al will come out with a new version that makes my knowledge deprecated. > I hate to mention the word, but 'screencasts' is almost a standard. It > wouldn't hurt if someone could put one together. On the Python wiki there are >30 different web frameworks. Even if someone decides that among the 5 frameworks is Pylons then the web site needs to give a lot of information in very little time highlighting the fun features. A screencast would be great (30 minutes are far too much - perhaps 5-10 minutes). I'd even do it myself but I'm unsure whether my spoken english will probably rather drive people away. :) Christoph --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pylons-discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---