Oh brilliant. I'll unsubscribe from this list then. It sounds like the only
people using it will be those folks who think their tooling preferences are
more important than creating a joined-up Python community; I can survive
without their input.


On Sun, 4 Dec 2022, 19:53 Baptiste Carvello, <
devel2...@baptiste-carvello.net> wrote:

> Le 04/12/2022 à 16:55, Barney Gale a écrit :
> >
> > I don't want to post to multiple
> > places in order to reach the devs.
>
> Nobody proposed that. In order to reach the devs, you use discourse (or
> have someone else do it on your behalf).
>
> Just let the "second circle" of the community keep their mailing list,
> as this second circle just won't switch to a specialized, and quite
> unflexible tool.
>
> Yeah, without most core devs, this list might be more akin to
> python-ideas than the old python-dev. But it makes sense to keep the
> bigger following it has grown over the years.
>
> > I prefer mailing lists personally, but theyve been losing out to web
> > forums for 20 years now.
>
> This is historically untrue. In technical communities, web forums have
> been considered second class tools until some 5 years ago, with
> mailing-lists being seen as lighter, more flexible and more capable.
>

Invision Power Board, PHPBB and others supplanted mailing lists in the
early 00s. Programming communities took longer because they
disproportionately attract folks with strong and inflexible preferences.

>
> Then they began loosing to *heavily moderated* web forums because of the
> insistence on moderation. Yeah, smartphones with no capable mail client
> played a role too.
>
> Cheers,
> Baptiste
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