On 17 November 2016 at 14:45, Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> wrote: > Personally, when I hit step 6, I search the web. PyPI search is > exhaustive but not very usefully ranked (for this purpose). Searching > for a keyword or protocol will give undue weight to a module whose > name is simply that word, even if that module is terrible, > unmaintained, etc, etc. Properly-ranked web search results are > generally more useful in pointing me to the appropriate package, even > if they're telling me to use something with a very different name. > (Consider a search for "python http". You'll get httplib/http.client, > but shortly after that, you get pointed to 'requests'.) > > As another bonus, blog posts of that nature will help to explain to > more experienced devs "why should this matter to me". People who've > already used requests-oauthlib are unlikely to reach for a new and > unproven package without a good reason. So give them that reason! :)
Additionally, I look for simple usage examples. When I did search for OAuth, I got lots of hits for libraries, some even included "how to add OAuth to your Flask app" examples. But not one showed me how I should call a web service that uses OAuth from the Python interpreter prompt using that library. Contrast the first page of the requests documentation: >>> import requests >>> r = requests.get('https://api.github.com/user', auth=('user', 'pass')) >>> r.status_code 200 >>> r.headers['content-type'] 'application/json; charset=utf8' >>> r.encoding 'utf-8' >>> r.text u'{"type":"User"...' >>> r.json() {u'private_gists': 419, u'total_private_repos': 77, ...} With that, I immediately see how to use the code. Something similar with an OAuth using service would be what I'm looking for. I'd consider that sort of use case focused documentation as a minimum for any library that was looking to be included in the stdlib. I know I've been arguing earlier in this thread that "OAuth may be a good candidate for the stdlib". Here, what I'm saying is "... but I don't see any library implementing it that's ready for stdlib inclusion". While oic may be highly standards-compliant, IMO it's not ready for stdlib inclusion without user-focused design and documentation. On the other hand, nor was any other OAuth package I found via a quick search. Paul _______________________________________________ Python-ideas mailing list Python-ideas@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/