i sent him an email because we are going to be doing EXACTLY what he will be
doing.
1: All of our clients are using Outlook or Outlook Express, this is a
requirement, since it checks pop before it does any smtp transactions.
2: All our clients are using SSL
3: I will be releasing a first run tarpit patch sometime late today, early
tommorow, that will make them pay should they figure out 1 and 2, and give
you time to hunt them down.
VERY simple and it will close you down pretty damn well considering that
most spammers have the brainpower of a twig.
Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 4:44 PM
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Filters with qmail
>
>
> Matt Garrett writes:
>
> > Look. I very much doubt that Martin Staael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> REALLY
> > wants to run an open relay. What most ISPs want to allow are
>
> Actually, he thinks he does. As I mentioned earlier, usually there's an
> inquiry of this kind about once a month on this list.
>
> These organizations provide either web hosting, or other non-dialup
> services, and they do not maintain any dialup facilities on their own.
> Their clients have their own dialup accounts with separate ISPs. For some
> reason he believes that his clients cannot use the mail relays from their
> own ISPs, and are required to use his. Either that, or he does
> sell dialup
> access, but believes that his clients should be allowed to access his mail
> servers from other ISPs.
>
> What these people are not realizing is that this business model is simply
> no longer compatible with the way that the Internet is right now. This
> kind of a setup - open relaying for everyone - might've been
> acceptable and
> the norm some time ago, but these days, it no longer is. They
> can't expect
> to enforce their own business model onto the rest of the Internet, they
> must somehow fit their business model within the established
> guidelines and
> requirements, that's it. There are many technical solutions
> available that
> will allow his customers to authenticate themselves, and he should simply
> choose the best one for his situation.
>
