Feel free to add it to the wiki.

On 3/27/07, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    Erik, Jake, and Philip, thank you immensely for the details! I
really needed it. It probably would have taken me another two days to
figure all that out, if not more. Perhaps a statement in the FAQ (3.6)
as to why the sample-spam.txt included with Spamassassin is a poor test
of the spambox function could save others a lot of hair-pulling...
    Thank you!
John

Erik A. Espinoza wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> Simscan + SpamAssassin rejects spam above 12 hits (by default) before
> it hits the qmail-queue (hard reject). This is very obvious spam and
> it is usually safe to reject at this many hits, as it is very unlikely
> to be legitimate at this number of hits. SpamAssassin will also label
> 5-11.9 as ***SPAM***. The QmailAdmin spambox puts everything from
> 5-11.9 hits in the Spam folder for users. This is likely spam, but
> without whitelists it can result in the occasional false positive.
>
> For example, I use the QmailToaster at work for a local site of a
> large megacorp. When we first migrated to the QmailToaster, the first
> corporate e-mail going to all users came in, formatted all nasty in
> outlook with images and lots of caps, SpamAssassin saw that as 5.1
> hits (without a whitelist). Our users got the e-mail, albeit rewritten
> as ***SPAM***, I added the corp to the whitelist and all has been well
> since.
>
> Spambox would have moved this over to the Spam folder, making the
> users inbox easier to follow.
>
> Thanks,
> Erik
>
> On 3/27/07, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>     I'm the one that has been trying to get answers as to why the
>> infamous .Spam box gets created when I send the sample spam text to a
>> user with spam detection enabled. Thanks to those who tried to help out.
>>     In the end, I had to just keep reading on my own, and reverse
>> engineering Qmailtoaster in order to gain a better understanding of how
>> it all fits together. I've learned that Simscan rejects spam before it
>> ever reaches the Qmail queue for processing. My user's .Spam box never
>> gets created because the mailfilter script doesn't get called unless
>> Simscan passes it through. So the point of the infamous "spambox"
>> is...what, exactly?
>>     I.e., Qmailtoaster is working exactly as it was intended after all.
>> But, while I can see the advantage of having multiple spam filters, if
>> users--or System Administrators new to Simscan--want proof that it's not
>> rejecting valid email, the Spam box functionality should work at the
>> door, shouldn't it? Otherwise, the multiple tutorials on "how to create
>> spam folders so users can double-check that nothing useful is being
>> thrown away" seems like a false sense of security.
>>     Am I wrong about any of this?
>> -John B.
>>
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