On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 9:30 PM, Unman <un...@thirdeyesecurity.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 04, 2017 at 07:37:10PM -0300, Franz wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Unman <un...@thirdeyesecurity.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, Sep 02, 2017 at 11:18:14PM -0300, Franz wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Unman <un...@thirdeyesecurity.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > Anyway I tried to start again debian-8-multimedia-dvm  and the
> empty
> > > file
> > > > > > is there, still empty. Also there is a folder and an hidden file
> from
> > > > > > Softmaker that do not appear on normal DispVMs
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This shows that your disposableVMs are not using the updated
> > > > > DVMTemplate.
> > > > > Whenever this issue has come up in the past, it's invariably been
> > > solved
> > > > > by a slow and methodical approach.
> > > > > Make sure that the DVMTemplate has customisations and the
> > > > > .qubes-dispvm-customized file in /home/user (It does, you say.)
> > > > > Close down the DVMTemplate.
> > > > > Wait.
> > > > > Regenerate the DVMTemplate (as you have).
> > > > >
> > > > > If this doesnt work, then try closing all disposableVMs,
> qvm-remove the
> > > > > debian-8-multimedia-dvm, and start again.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > I rebooted the whole computer, did what you suggested, but what is
> > > strange
> > > > is that when I start the normal DispVM it starts immediately and the
> > > usual
> > > > screen (telling that the first time it is slow, but later will be
> faster)
> > > > does not appears. Is that expected?
> > > >
> > > > Any way the DispVM does not contain the files that are in the
> > > > DispVM-template, particularly the softmaker folders and the hidden
> > > > .qubes-dispvm-customized
> > >
> > > You havent said what you did - ie which of the methods I suggested you
> > > acted upon.
> > >
> > >
> > Sorry Unman you are right
> > I did
> > qvm-remove debian-8-multimedia-dvm
> > then rebooted the computer
> > then
> > qvm-create-default-dvm debian-8-multimedia
> >
> > then
> > qvm-run -a debian-8-multimedia-dvm gnome-terminal
> >
> > then checked which files were present. The softmaker folder was there,
> but
> > the .qubes-dispvm-customized was not, so created it with touch
> >
> > then in terminal wrote shutdown and it closed.
> >
> > then started the standard dispvm which contains neither the softmaker
> > folder nor the .qubes.... file
> >
> >
>
> After you have created the .qubes-dispvm-customized file, and shutdown
> the DVMTemplate,  you have to regenerate the dispVMTemplate by running
> qvm-create-default-dvm debian-8-multimedia again. You dont mention this
> step.
>
>
No I did not understood you have to repeat it after the changes to
incorporate them.
This last step does not work. I am getting an error here:

connecting to VM's GUI agent....................time out

Error: cannot start qubes-guid
Best
Fran

>
> > If the disposableVM does not contain the files that are in the
> > > DispVM Template then there's something seriously wrong - either in what
> > > you are doing or in the code. I suspect it's the former.
> > >
> > > Did you delete all the files and start again from scratch?
> > >
> >
> > All the files? Which files? I deleted only the DispVM template
> >
> >
> > > What happens when you run qvm-create-default-dvm?
> > >
> >
> > It finishes with DVM savefile created successfully
> > ----
> > To be sure today I repeated all that again,
> > aldo tired another way to shutdown the dispVM template using
> > qvm-shutdown debian-8-multimedia-dvm
> >
> > I am very sorry to bother you Unman, but the result is always the same:
> the
> > standard dispVM does not contain the files that are in the home folder of
> > the dispVM template.
> >
> > Well Unman, it is not so strange after all: all applVM do NOT contain the
> > files that are in the home folder of the template from which they depend.
> > So it is standard behavior. Why the dispVM should perform otherwise?
> >
> > Best
> > Fran
>
> The dispVM is designed to work differently if the
> .qubes-dispvm-customized file is present in the home folder, just so
> that you CAN customize the disposableVM, and have files appearing in all
> the disposableVMs.
> What would be strange would be if this didnt work for you.
>

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