On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Unman <un...@thirdeyesecurity.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 05, 2017 at 08:27:14AM -0300, Franz wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 9:30 PM, Unman <un...@thirdeyesecurity.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Sep 04, 2017 at 07:37:10PM -0300, Franz wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Unman <un...@thirdeyesecurity.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Sep 02, 2017 at 11:18:14PM -0300, Franz wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Unman <
> un...@thirdeyesecurity.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anyway I tried to start again debian-8-multimedia-dvm  and
> the
> > > empty
> > > > > file
> > > > > > > > is there, still empty. Also there is a folder and an hidden
> file
> > > from
> > > > > > > > Softmaker that do not appear on normal DispVMs
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This shows that your disposableVMs are not using the updated
> > > > > > > DVMTemplate.
> > > > > > > Whenever this issue has come up in the past, it's invariably
> been
> > > > > solved
> > > > > > > by a slow and methodical approach.
> > > > > > > Make sure that the DVMTemplate has customisations and the
> > > > > > > .qubes-dispvm-customized file in /home/user (It does, you say.)
> > > > > > > Close down the DVMTemplate.
> > > > > > > Wait.
> > > > > > > Regenerate the DVMTemplate (as you have).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If this doesnt work, then try closing all disposableVMs,
> > > qvm-remove the
> > > > > > > debian-8-multimedia-dvm, and start again.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > I rebooted the whole computer, did what you suggested, but what
> is
> > > > > strange
> > > > > > is that when I start the normal DispVM it starts immediately and
> the
> > > > > usual
> > > > > > screen (telling that the first time it is slow, but later will be
> > > faster)
> > > > > > does not appears. Is that expected?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any way the DispVM does not contain the files that are in the
> > > > > > DispVM-template, particularly the softmaker folders and the
> hidden
> > > > > > .qubes-dispvm-customized
> > > > >
> > > > > You havent said what you did - ie which of the methods I suggested
> you
> > > > > acted upon.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Sorry Unman you are right
> > > > I did
> > > > qvm-remove debian-8-multimedia-dvm
> > > > then rebooted the computer
> > > > then
> > > > qvm-create-default-dvm debian-8-multimedia
> > > >
> > > > then
> > > > qvm-run -a debian-8-multimedia-dvm gnome-terminal
> > > >
> > > > then checked which files were present. The softmaker folder was
> there,
> > > but
> > > > the .qubes-dispvm-customized was not, so created it with touch
> > > >
> > > > then in terminal wrote shutdown and it closed.
> > > >
> > > > then started the standard dispvm which contains neither the softmaker
> > > > folder nor the .qubes.... file
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > After you have created the .qubes-dispvm-customized file, and shutdown
> > > the DVMTemplate,  you have to regenerate the dispVMTemplate by running
> > > qvm-create-default-dvm debian-8-multimedia again. You dont mention this
> > > step.
> > >
> > >
> > No I did not understood you have to repeat it after the changes to
> > incorporate them.
> > This last step does not work. I am getting an error here:
> >
> > connecting to VM's GUI agent....................time out
> >
> > Error: cannot start qubes-guid
> > Best
> > Fran
> >
>
> OK, that's the principal issue resolved. You need to run
> qvm-create-default-dvm again AFTER making your customizations.
>
> As to the failure to starts qubes-guid I suspect that some of the
> changes you have made to the template are causing this. You may find
> some help in the logs, or you may be able to connect using xl console,
> and see what has happened.
>
> Alternatively, you could break down the customization in to discrete steps
> (or groups of steps), and see if you can isolate the issue like that.
>
>
Thanks Unman, but all that seems very difficult to do.  I did nothing
strange to the template, just installed applications.  It seems new Qubes
release 4 uses different way to manage dispvms, so possibly it will work
there once the final release is ready. Is this reasonable?

> unman
>

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