And let’s not forget the beaches of the Central Coast ;) > On 8 Dec 2015, at 11:14 AM, Leif Eriksen <leif.eriksen...@gmail.com> wrote: > > One thing in Sydney is superior to Bris and Melb > > Beaches > > Not sure if that's important or not in your deliberations, but there are > Harbour, North and South coast beaches that are incredible > > My favs > Harbour - Balmoral > North - Whale, or Palm > South - National Park (not really Sydney, but so worth the trip) > > J2CW > > L > > This email crafted from materials gathered from across the cosmos. > > On 8 Dec 2015, at 10:46, Ryan Bigg <radarliste...@gmail.com > <mailto:radarliste...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> Hi Lorenzo, >> >> I lived and worked in both Sydney and Melbourne. Sydney for 2 and a bit >> years, and Melbourne for almost 4. There are more reasons than just my wife >> that are keeping me in Melbourne: >> >> * Melbourne's Ruby community is larger than Sydney's and, in my opinion, has >> better quality talks at the meetups than Sydney. (#shotsfired) There is also >> talk here of providing a better platform to newbie speakers; which I never >> saw the whole time I was in Sydney. Maybe that has changed, or will change. >> >> * Melbourne has some great co-working spaces like inspire9 and teamsquare, >> which foster a lot of startups and i9 also provides drop-in desks that you >> can use if you find working alone to be too lonely. While there is a similar >> culture in Sydney, a lot of these kinds of places are priced higher than in >> Melbourne (when they charge for it) >> >> * If you like riding a bike: Melbourne's more bike-friendly than Sydney. Not >> even BigDecimal is large enough to hold the amount of times I was either >> sworn at or treated aggressively by Sydney's drivers and pedestrians. >> There's also a ton of awesome bike paths in Melbourne, like the Main Yarra >> Trail, as well as a lot of safe(ish) bike paths through the city. >> >> * Both Sydney and Melbourne's real estate markets are insane. I've found >> renting in Melbourne is less competitive than in Sydney. Buying a house in >> Melbourne (ie within 50km of the CBD) feels _almost_ possible, but in >> Sydney: nope. >> >> * Sydney has better weather than Melbourne, I'll give it that. However: when >> it's good in Melbourne it's ridiculously good and there's plenty of stuff to >> do when that happens. >> >> Overall, I've found the community in Melbourne easier to break into than the >> one in Sydney. Maybe I've changed since I was in Sydney and that's why. >> >> The Sydney "vibe" felt more corporate, whereas the Melbourne "vibe" feels >> more innovative and exciting. >> >> I can't really offer any evidence of one being better than the other, where >> that evidence is NOT anecdotal. >> >> Melbourne has room for a developer with your talents and, I think you'd be >> wise to choose Melbourne. >> >> (Not sure I made it clear, so here's a summary: MELBOURNE ROCKS). >> >> >> >> >> >> On 8 Dec 2015, at 09:52, David Parry <david.pa...@suranyami.com >> <mailto:david.pa...@suranyami.com>> wrote: >> >>> Also, Lorenzo, you might want to use the Greythorn Salary Survey as a guide >>> for salary expectations in each city: >>> >>> https://www.greythorn.com.au/download-the-2014-greythorn-market-insights-and-salary-guide >>> >>> <https://www.greythorn.com.au/download-the-2014-greythorn-market-insights-and-salary-guide> >>> >>> Both Melbourne & Sydney are great places to live and have the most RoR job >>> opportunities. Sydney’s expensive, but Melbourne’s catching up. >>> >>> However, we are blessed with a great, supportive, fun Ruby community all >>> across Australia and New Zealand, so don’t stress too much about it. >>> >>> >>>> On 8 Dec 2015, at 9:31 AM, Steve Gilles <st...@stevegilles.com >>>> <mailto:st...@stevegilles.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Lorenzo, >>>> >>>> Most on-site Ruby / Rails roles are in Sydney and Melbourne so I’d >>>> recommend starting your search there. The size of the Ruby market is >>>> similar in each city, so career wise you should be fine in either. >>>> >>>> More importantly, spend time figuring out which city you’d enjoy *living* >>>> in more. Read up, speak to people who live in each city and spend time >>>> exploring. >>>> >>>> Steve Gilles >>>> @stevelikesyou >>>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Jonathan Fantham <j.fant...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:j.fant...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> This could be stale information now, but five years ago when I moved to >>>> Australia I applied for jobs in Melbourne and Sydney and I got a lot more >>>> responses from Sydney than Melbourne. >>>> >>>> I would recommend applying for jobs in both cities and see what bites you >>>> get. Usually companies are happy to do online interviews. They’ll probably >>>> want a final in-person interview but at least you can test the waters >>>> remotely. >>>> >>>>> On 7/12/2015, at 07:37, Lorenzo Sinisi <lasslo....@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:lasslo....@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello Rubyist, I'll move to Australia in about a month and I'm a Ruby >>>>> developer with 3 years experience. I would like to pick up the best city >>>>> for my skillset and I have no idea about the market over there. Where >>>>> would you suggest me to start formy working experience between Melbourne, >>>>> Sydney or Brisbane? I know it is a very generic question but I would just >>>>> like to know your opinion as you are already there. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> This is my Linkedin so you can give me a better advice >>>>> https://au.linkedin.com/in/lorenzosinisi >>>>> <https://au.linkedin.com/in/lorenzosinisi> >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/profile/public-profile-settings?trk=prof-edit-edit-public_profile> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to rails-oceania@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:rails-oceania@googlegroups.com>. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania >>>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania>. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>>> To post to this group, send email to rails-oceania@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:rails-oceania@googlegroups.com>. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania >>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania>. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>>> To post to this group, send email to rails-oceania@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:rails-oceania@googlegroups.com>. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania >>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania>. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>> To post to this group, send email to rails-oceania@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:rails-oceania@googlegroups.com>. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania >>> <http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania>. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> To post to this group, send email to rails-oceania@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:rails-oceania@googlegroups.com>. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania >> <http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To post to this group, send email to rails-oceania@googlegroups.com > <mailto:rails-oceania@googlegroups.com>. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania > <http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>.
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