Or, Bill,  you could sell all those superseded tires (the grass is always 
greener) to people who don’t share your compulsive search for the perfect tire. 
 ;-)  But I won’t be a buyer – I’m on the same quest.

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Lindsay
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 1:48 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Attn: Big mileage riders

The rude paraphrase to that Jan Heine sentiment would be something like:

"Those tires may be miserable to ride on, but at least they last a really long 
time, so the misery is extended."

The far end of the "stout tire" spectrum is solid rubber tires.  Solid rubber 
tires may last for 30,000 miles or more, but nobody would want to ride them.  
The trade off between "stout-ness" and "supple-ness" is unique for every rider 
on every bike.  I love buying and swapping tires, so my biggest frustration is 
that they don't wear out fast enough.  My poor tire box is overflowing, and 
there are at least a half-dozen models I'm dying to try out.  It reverts me to 
the absurd situation of putting the tires I dislike the most on the bike I ride 
the most so I can wear them out and finally get rid of them.  Does that make me 
crazy?  Or stupid?  Please don't answer......:-/

On Thursday, August 14, 2014 10:29:34 AM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:
This thread might be more accurately titled with something along the lines of 
"for those who like to get big mileage out of their tires"

I and other Randonneurs/Randonneuses ride big mileage on our Rivendells, but I 
personally am an adherent of the Jan Heine school of thought when it comes to 
tires and I don't think I would like to ride a Schwalbe Marathon.

Now for my around town bike, those tires might be a good idea, but I have yet 
to wear out the Pasela TGs that I installed on it shortly after I acquired it.

On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 3:18 PM, dougP <doug...@cox.net<javascript:>> wrote:
The Blug has some interesting photos of a Schwalbe Marathon that went 14,000 
miles.  There's no tread left on the center, so it pretty much earned its keep 
a while back, IMHO.  BUT, at the end of story, Rivendell says "Anybody who buys 
a Marathon Plus from us and rides it 14,000 miles gets a free replacement."  
Save those proofs-of-purchase!

I don't doubt the mileage.  I got 11,000 miles out of a Supreme on the front on 
my Atlantis.  It looked better than the tire in the photo when I changed it.  I 
don't try to squeeze the last mile out of my tires, especially the front.  Tire 
life is highly variable, depending on width, load such as rider weight & use, 
nice pavement vs off-road, etc.

So if you pile on the miles, now you know the best source for tires.

dougP
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