Hi Shoji,

Thanks for all your helpful feedback and pics.  What size is your 
Hunqapillar?  Do you recall your PBH or saddle height?  I like your fat 
tire/fender combos.  What is the largest tire you've used?  

We have a trailer 
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/jayburkhalter/5582451022/in/set-72157626412272070>
 
right now, but it is set up for dog hauling.  I love how the Cycletote 
tracks and rides, but we haven't ordered the kid attachments for it.  

Your HAR/HAB setup along with basket and saddlesack is really sharp!  Just 
what I would use for overnights.   Do you know what rear panniers play well 
with the Piccolo rack?  

-Jay
On Monday, August 25, 2014 10:49:51 AM UTC-5, Shoji Takahashi wrote:

> Hi Everyone:
> Some nice kid-hauling set ups!
>
> I have my Hunqapillar set up for kid hauling (2-yo and 4-yo). Yepp Mini 
> front seat (which I highly recommend) on albatross hbars; Burley Piccolo 
> trail-a-bike (has its own dedicated rear rack). I also have a Burley D'Lite 
> trailer. (I'm also an h-bar swapper... but that's a different thread.)
>
> I skipped the rear bike seat (I would have chosen the Yepp Maxi) and 
> jumped to the trail-a-bike. (Note: I had and have a 2-child trailer already 
> in the shed. Having it made it easier for me to forgo the rear bike seat, 
> as I could use the 2-child trailer if/when necessary.)
>
> My son was ready for the trail-a-bike at ~3.5 yo. I could trust him to 
> hold on and communicate, though I was extra cautious and kept an eye on him 
> with the Riv-German mirror. I've heard of children getting sleepy while on 
> trail-a-bikes, so I haven't taken him on long excursions on it. Initially, 
> the saddle height couldn't be lowered enough for him to pedal, so I zipped 
> tied the crank to the chain stay to create a platform for him to stand. 
>
> I take him to school on the trail-a-bike. Of course, it's compatible with 
> the front Yepp Mini, which I sometimes have my 2-yo.
>
> You'll have to give up your Saddlesack when using the Piccolo, but no big 
> deal. It goes on/off quite easily. If necessary, you can attach certain 
> panniers to the Piccolo rack while pulling the trail-a-bike. I picked up 
> the HAR/HAB for family picnics. (Works great.)
>
> Some pics:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/13999203980/in/set-72157643709359733
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/14374522134/
>
> And the family on the virtual Enmoot:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/14665658393/in/set-72157643709359733
>
> 2-child trailer: It's nice for hauling kids and toys to the park or around 
> places. I prefer having them on the Yepp or Piccolo, but it's convenient 
> and stable. I'm not sure how much longer my 4yo will be able to fit into it 
> with his sister.
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/14235538308/
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, August 23, 2014 3:04:28 PM UTC-4, Jay B wrote:
>>
>> howdy folks,
>>
>> We’ve been super happy with the Bobike Mini front child carrier for 
>> toting around our nearly 2 year old for the last year. Combined with a 
>> large rear saddlesack and front basket on the Bleriot, Betty, or Quickbeam, 
>> we’ve got our daily urban transport needs just about covered (we just moved 
>> to Houston, and while it’s not nearly as bike-friendly as Denver, it’s 
>> proved surprisingly bike-able for our needs).  
>>
>> Our little guy is approaching the 33 lb suggested weight limit for the 
>> Bobike, but more concerning to me is that his shoulders are now several 
>> inches above the top of the backrest of the carrier and the shoulder straps 
>> tend to work their way off his shoulders. So, I’ve been pondering our next 
>> step. 
>>
>> I’ve considered getting a Yepp Maxi (or similar rear child carrier), and 
>> while it would work great with my wife’s Betty, I think I might get tired 
>> of throwing my leg over my already high (for me) top tubes.  And I would 
>> have a hard time giving up my much used and loved large rear saddlesack. 
>>  I’ve considered getting a Cheviot and setting it up similar to RBW 
>> employee Keven’s that was spotlighted on the Blug, especially if I could 
>> fit Big Bens and fenders on it (I’ve yet to reach out to Keven to see how 
>> that setup is going). I have an Xtracycle that would also work with the 
>> Yepp Maxi, but I was really hoping to let that bike go as we really don’t 
>> use it often enough.  
>>
>> I feel I have reached the useful limit of my theoretical ponderings on 
>> the matter and could really use some real world feedback from those of you 
>> with experience.  All shared knowledge and lessons learned are much 
>> appreciated!
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Jay B.
>> Houston, TX 
>>
>

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