Waynee: IMO, your question is perfectly reasonable, and I for one will be
very interested to hear responses. For me, a slow, heavy bike would be an
instant non-seller.

One aside that might be pertinent: as Jan Heine has shown over the last few
years in his publication, Bicycle Quarterly, the most influential factor in
bicycle speed, after aerodynamics, is tire quality. A tire with thick,
heavy sidewalls will rob a surprising amount of the pedaler's energy, while
a very supple tire, even if a very wide one, will roll with far less
friction. The difference is in the casings: a supple casing drains far less
of your energy than a thick, stiff one which simply requires more energy to
flex it.

I disagree with Jan on a number of points, but my own experience, such as
it is, very definitely bears out this judgment.

Back to the Clem: I personally would be interested to learn how it rides on
rough dirt roads, particularly on sandy soil.

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Wayne Naha <w.r.n...@gmail.com> wrote:

> [Snip]
> I really want to like this bike, but a slow, heavy bike would be indeed a
> tough bike to love.  The blug says Clem can do touring, trails, and towny
> stuff.  But plodding along the trails does not sound fun.
> I ask the questions with all respect.  I am not trying to be snarky, but
> am trying to get solid information on which to base a purchasing decision.
> It would be so much simpler just to go to the Riv store and hop on a Clem,
> but I am across the continent from them.  I spoke with Keven at length just
> recently, but input from the group seems relevant and important, too.
>

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