I was of the same mind as Edwin. When Joe showed up, I thought of buying one and tranferring the parts from Sam and buying some fatter tires for one wheelset. I thought Joe might be better on trails but feared I'd miss the road feel of Sam. I've noticed that 45 Smart Sams fit the Sam but rub on the kickstand when I pedal hard. I did see that the bb drop on Joe was slightly lower but I'm sure that would be easily offset by a set of 55 tires.
A Joe for dirt and heavy lifting and Sam for roading in the garage\shop together is not an option. Too many projects coming up and it's rainy season (we hope). Besides that combo might be better satisfied by Sam and a Hunq. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.