so if you want to still ride a riv and you enjow the riv riding qualities 
...then maybe as others said..sniff around for a Roadeo or try a Roadini . 

On Friday, January 6, 2017 at 2:49:11 PM UTC-6, John Bokman wrote:
>
> Bill, thanks for the  thoughts. I actually do think the type of bike is 
> good for me, because I regularly haul heavy groceries - easily 30 pounds. I 
> don't expect the Sam to be sprightly when I'm hauling weight, of course 
> (wouldn't that be nice?). It's the when I remove all the weight and climb 
> the same hill and don't feel much less encumbered that annoys me. I suspect 
> that you are correct, and that my intuition has been correct and that the 
> 60 fits less well than a smaller frame would, regardless of what my PBH 
> says.
>
> For the record, I've never expected the Sam to ride like a "road" bike. 
> But I've always been surprised that, as nice as it is on the flats and 
> downhill, it does not climb better for me.
>
> On Friday, January 6, 2017 at 7:41:27 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Given your height of 6'0" and your weight of 155lbs, I tend to think that 
>> it's a combination of things.  If you aren't loading the bike down with 
>> gear, then it's easy to consider a San overbuilt for you and for how you 
>> are using it.  It's a country bike. It says so right on the decals.  If 
>> that's the case, a flexier bike with thinner and/or skinnier top tube and 
>> down tube could feel snappier. 
>>
>> My suggestions would include deciding if you want a country bike. If you 
>> do, embrace that the Sam is a country bike.  If you want a sprightly road 
>> bike also, start targeting that. You mentioned the Atlantis, and it's a 
>> legendary touring bike, but it's also not a sprightly road bike.  A 150lb 
>> rider on a stripped down Atlantis May similarly feel the bike is WAY 
>> overbuilt for the load. 
>>
>> Where do you live?  We could brainstorm the bikes you could try out. 
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>

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