Yes Garth, I do have a different bike, and it's quite different, and I'm 
sure that does indeed affect my perception of the Sam. 

On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 3:19:12 PM UTC-8, Garth wrote:
>
> Maybe you are comparing it another bike with a more mid or low trail 
> geometry ?   Yes, when I change from my sport touring bike with neutral 
> handling to my Bombadil it feels downtight wierd every time , but now it 
> passes quickly.  That wierd could be called sluggish by someone else, since 
> especially on steeper climbs and standing the bike feels resistant to 
> handlebar input compared to what I am most accustomed to.   As for actual 
> differences in speed there is none, just different ways to do the same 
> thing. 

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