I get the "How old is that bike?" question occasionally, but much more
often I get the "Wow, what a nice bike!" exclamation for both of my Rivs,
and from a surprising variety of exclaimers -- experienced riders but also
ordinary citizens. The Rivs are 18 and 14 years old respectively, but I
don't consider them any older in a functional sense or even aesthetic sense
than my 2016 Matthews.

If old means "worn out," then any bike that has been ridden until worn out
is old. If old means outdated as to performance, then I'd say you have to
go back at least to the mid '80s because of clipless pedals and aero levers
and cassettes and slant parallelogram derailleurs; at least, that's when
they became common. I believe that these inventions were real benefits to
cycling. If "old" means simply "around many years," then any date is rather
arbitrary, no? Or at best, simply relative to something that came earlier.
New College, Oxford was founded in 1379, New College, Florida in 1960.

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 4:31 PM, iamkeith <keithhar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I dont receive the misinformed "must be old" comments as often as i do the
> misinformed "must be heavy and difficult to ride" comments.  So really
> thinking about this for the first time, it occurs to me that there is
> probably a hidden silver lining here.  If average joe crook thinks my AR is
> just some old relic, they might be more inclined to pass it up for the
> plastic bike chained next to it.
>
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