Maybe this is the wrong question to ask, but is it too tall an order to expect a kickstand plate that doesn’t shear off under normal circumstances? I mean, I figure if anyone is going to design a proper kickstand plate to fit a variety of stands and applications for use, it would be Rivendell, no?

On Nov 6, 2022, at 6:00 PM, Jeffrey Arita <jeffreyar...@gmail.com> wrote:

My wife and I each had Rivendells (me an AHH, my wife Betty Foy).  Both frame models each came with kickstand plates (yay!).  We spec'd both bikes with Greenfield single leg sidestands.  To our knowledge, the kickstand plates remained sturdy and attached.  But, both bikes were not loaded with a lot of gear or stuff - no racks and panniers, groceries, etc.  My wife did commute with her BF and she did carry extra clothing and shoes, but that was pretty much it.

We've since sold the Rivs but definitely see the need for some sort of sidestand, especially while loaded touring.  We've got friends that have purchased Click-Stands and they hold a very well loaded bicycle.  The guy builds a solid product.  Just remember to use the front brake band and you're good-to-go.  I ended up making our own from tent pole pieces after seeing how simple they were.  Another possible solution that won't stress out any part of the bicycle.

http://www.click-stand.com/

Leah: if you are concerned about your smartphone bicycle mount, consider getting a Quad Lock.  They are pricey, but we feel it is well worth it.  We've used them for years now (6+) cyclotouring on- and off-road and they have kept our phones safe and secure.

https://www.quadlockcase.com/collections/shop-cycle

Good luck,

Jeff & Lori Arita
Claremont, CA

On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 2:25:28 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
[ I thank-you Joe Bernard for diverting Leah's 'Using Your Rivendell' thread into a separate thread about "Kickstand plates, what's up with that ?" ]

I'm always here to help! 🙋‍♂️ Or annoy people, depending on your POV! 😂

I'm definitely going to keep my one-legger and try not to snap anything. I tried kickstandless for a few weeks and it drove me nuts trying to figure out how to part my bike with scraping it on poles and walls. Kickstands for me! 

On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 2:03:43 PM UTC-8 Kim Hetzel wrote:
I thank-you Joe Bernard for diverting Leah's 'Using Your Rivendell' thread into a separate thread about "Kickstand plates, what's up with that ?"

Upon you doing this, your timing is perfect. Like I mentioned previously, I just installed my new Pletscher two legged kickstand and the new rubber shoes for the feet of the stand on my Clem Smith Jr. "L" bike. I had the same set-up on my 2008 Surly Long Haul Trucker with no issues in the short time that I owned it.

I am very grateful to read all the valuable input and experiences with their kickstand plates.

What I plan on doing is to remove my Pletscher two legged kickstand and put the single kickstand back on my bike for the time being. I am going to order the Pletscher kickstand hardware from Rivendell and install the rubber chain stay protectors with the long bolt and reinstall the two legged kickstand. I want to preserve my kickstand plate being the third owner in less than a year.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 11:10:44 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
Seconding Jim's thoughts about your phone mount. I see a turn-by-hand screw and plastic clamp, you'll break the clamp before crushing the bar if you ever screwed it down that hard. 

A little blue Loctite on the threads of that screw should keep it tight. 

On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 4:33:20 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
I read the product description which warns of over tightening and ruining the frame. And then I thought of my new phone handlebar mount that affixes to the bar like a vice and wondered if I’m ruining my Billie Bars! I find myself having to tighten it a smidge now and then, and I wonder if it’s because it’s mashing the aluminum Billie Bar. Can anyone offer an opinion here? (I got a new iPhone and it’s huge and heavy, for what it’s worth.)
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On Nov 6, 2022, at 7:10 AM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <kaivi...@gmail.com> wrote:

Save the plate! Add some weight!
-Kai

On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 1:12:04 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
I thought I'd bring this over here instead of continuing to hammer Leah's 'Using Your Rivendell' thread. 

Do we have any reports of plates separating from the stays from a single-leg kickstand, or are they all double-leggers? My experience with both is this: 

I used a double-legger on a Clem and could really load that bike up, I'm familiar with that rocking sensation of all the weight torquing on the stand. On my custom I use a single leg (the stock one that came on Clem completes a few years ago) and it's not very strong. It supports the bike fine and I can put a small shopping load in the bags, but as soon as I start to overdo it I can feel the bike getting wobbly like the stand wants to give out on me. My guess in this scenario is the single-legger is warning me before the plate gets too stressed, whilst the double will let you load all day until the plate gives up. 

Whaddyathink? 

Joe Bernard 

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