You're welcome! Although I now realize my follow-up was completely 
redundant, i didn't notice Jim had mentioned the plastic clamp, too, I just 
repeated what he said. Lame! 🤪

On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 5:39:43 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Whew, thanks, guys! Super relieved. You have no idea. 
>
> On Nov 6, 2022, at 2:10 PM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Seconding Jim's thoughts about your phone mount. I see a turn-by-hand 
> screw and plastic clamp, you'll break the clamp before crushing the bar if 
> you ever screwed it down that hard. 
>
>
> A little blue Loctite on the threads of that screw should keep it tight. 
>
> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 4:33:20 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I read the product description which warns of over tightening and ruining 
>> the frame. And then I thought of my new phone handlebar mount that affixes 
>> to the bar like a vice and wondered if I’m ruining my Billie Bars! I find 
>> myself having to tighten it a smidge now and then, and I wonder if it’s 
>> because it’s mashing the aluminum Billie Bar. Can anyone offer an opinion 
>> here? (I got a new iPhone and it’s huge and heavy, for what it’s worth.)
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>
>> On Nov 6, 2022, at 7:10 AM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <kaivi...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/pletscher-kickstand-hardware?variant=23336090241
>>
>> Save the plate! Add some weight!
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 1:12:04 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> I thought I'd bring this over here instead of continuing to hammer 
>>> Leah's 'Using Your Rivendell' thread. 
>>>
>>> Do we have any reports of plates separating from the stays from a 
>>> single-leg kickstand, or are they all double-leggers? My experience with 
>>> both is this: 
>>>
>>> I used a double-legger on a Clem and could really load that bike up, I'm 
>>> familiar with that rocking sensation of all the weight torquing on the 
>>> stand. On my custom I use a single leg (the stock one that came on Clem 
>>> completes a few years ago) and it's not very strong. It supports the bike 
>>> fine and I can put a small shopping load in the bags, but as soon as I 
>>> start to overdo it I can feel the bike getting wobbly like the stand wants 
>>> to give out on me. My guess in this scenario is the single-legger is 
>>> warning me before the plate gets too stressed, whilst the double will let 
>>> you load all day until the plate gives up. 
>>>
>>> Whaddyathink? 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>
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