If you can't find something to lean it on, keep riding.
On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 11:47:34 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote: > I'm a "leaner" as well. > > On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 10:47:15 AM UTC-5 amill...@gmail.com wrote: > >> It’s been my consistent observation and experience that kickstands cause >> more damage than they offer any “solution.” >> >> It’s always been easy to lean my bike against something. Sometimes I even >> lean it on the ground. It’s never fallen off the ground. >> >> Best, >> >> Aaron in El Paso >> >> On Nov 7, 2022, at 08:41, Mark C <wvfi...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> >> I don't think the single kickstands put all that much stress on the >> plate. The double stands are a whole nother thing. I have no idea how >> people use theirs, but there is a temptation to push the bike off of the >> stand (like on a motorcycle) rather than pick the rear of the bike up and >> close the stand. That puts a lot of stress on the front of the plate that >> could easily lead to the kind of damage shown here. These stands are handy >> for keeping the bike upright with loads, and there shouldn't be excessive >> stress in that position. On recumbents, people even try to sit on the bike >> while on the stand! - not a good idea. >> >> >> >> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 10:30:20 PM UTC-5 J J wrote: >> >>> So here’s a pic of the plate on an unpainted Glorius, which gives a >>> pretty good view of the weld to one of the chainstays. (We’ve not bothered >>> to put the kickstand mounting hardware on this yet because it’s lightly >>> ridden and has not carried but the smallest loads.) >>> >>> I agree that the plates are dainty relative to the sheer burliness of >>> bikes like the Bombadil and Hunqapillar. I also don’t see any technical >>> reason the plates could not be reinforced to withstand the sorts of loads >>> these burly bikes are built for. I would be fine with the additional weight >>> it would probably take. I love how practical a double kickstand is and I’m >>> so used to it that I can’t imagine using a single on my Hunq. >>> >>> Joe, nothing you wrote was lame… I think I alluded to the phone mount >>> being a weak point in Leah’s scenario without naming it specifically, and I >>> feel much more secure knowing you agree with my assessment! >>> >>> [image: Glorius kickstand plate.jpg] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 9:17:46 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote: >>> >>>> The Bombadil, despite being such a burly bike itself, has a most dainty >>>> kickstand plate - so much so that I've removed the kickstand from that >>>> bike >>>> just to avoid bending it and potentially damaging the chainstays in the >>>> process. Grant recognized the shortcoming and thickened the plate in >>>> subsequent models but like Joe rightly noted, the double leg kickstands >>>> are >>>> dangerous if not careful and this is, to my understanding, why Riv stopped >>>> selling them. >>>> >>>> On Sunday, 6 November 2022 at 17:59:00 UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote: >>>> >>>>> You're welcome! Although I now realize my follow-up was completely >>>>> redundant, i didn't notice Jim had mentioned the plastic clamp, too, I >>>>> just >>>>> repeated what he said. Lame! 🤪 >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 5:39:43 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding >>>>> Ding! wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Whew, thanks, guys! Super relieved. You have no idea. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 6, 2022, at 2:10 PM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Seconding Jim's thoughts about your phone mount. I see a >>>>>> turn-by-hand screw and plastic clamp, you'll break the clamp before >>>>>> crushing the bar if you ever screwed it down that hard. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> A little blue Loctite on the threads of that screw should keep it >>>>>> tight. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 4:33:20 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding >>>>>> Ding! wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I read the product description which warns of over tightening and >>>>>>> ruining the frame. And then I thought of my new phone handlebar mount >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> affixes to the bar like a vice and wondered if I’m ruining my Billie >>>>>>> Bars! >>>>>>> I find myself having to tighten it a smidge now and then, and I wonder >>>>>>> if >>>>>>> it’s because it’s mashing the aluminum Billie Bar. Can anyone offer an >>>>>>> opinion here? (I got a new iPhone and it’s huge and heavy, for what >>>>>>> it’s >>>>>>> worth.) >>>>>>> [image: image0.jpeg] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Nov 6, 2022, at 7:10 AM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY < >>>>>>> kaivi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/pletscher-kickstand-hardware?variant=23336090241 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Save the plate! Add some weight! >>>>>>> -Kai >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 1:12:04 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I thought I'd bring this over here instead of continuing to hammer >>>>>>>> Leah's 'Using Your Rivendell' thread. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do we have any reports of plates separating from the stays from a >>>>>>>> single-leg kickstand, or are they all double-leggers? My experience >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> both is this: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I used a double-legger on a Clem and could really load that bike >>>>>>>> up, I'm familiar with that rocking sensation of all the weight >>>>>>>> torquing on >>>>>>>> the stand. On my custom I use a single leg (the stock one that came on >>>>>>>> Clem >>>>>>>> completes a few years ago) and it's not very strong. It supports the >>>>>>>> bike >>>>>>>> fine and I can put a small shopping load in the bags, but as soon as I >>>>>>>> start to overdo it I can feel the bike getting wobbly like the stand >>>>>>>> wants >>>>>>>> to give out on me. My guess in this scenario is the single-legger is >>>>>>>> warning me before the plate gets too stressed, whilst the double will >>>>>>>> let >>>>>>>> you load all day until the plate gives up. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Whaddyathink? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Joe Bernard >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in >>>>>>> the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/cCxr_1kwTm0/unsubscribe >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>>>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/6c17c3da-8f87-4597-b5a5-8e87f438fcfcn%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/6c17c3da-8f87-4597-b5a5-8e87f438fcfcn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in >>>>>> the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/cCxr_1kwTm0/unsubscribe >>>>>> . >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/1cd704dc-ba83-46a6-8c12-c9562fedaf83n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/1cd704dc-ba83-46a6-8c12-c9562fedaf83n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d0afbd83-fc8d-4918-84fa-c0addf040e3dn%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d0afbd83-fc8d-4918-84fa-c0addf040e3dn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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