Thanks David, that's helpful... you probably saved me some time futzing with the brakes to try and remove the plate.
The idea came from the comments on the the xtracycle 650b conversion post <https://groups.google.com/u/5/g/internet-bob/c/mPYtKXetIFM/m/r0DFL-OsAgAJ> I made on the i-bob list but maybe I misunderstood - they were saying I might be able to direct-mount the brake to the existing pivot posts and get the pads down to the 650B rim. Anyway, perhaps the only real options are Mafac raids which I've never seen IRL but have a set coming my way or to splurge with the Rene Herse centerpulls. I'm still going to give it a shot to see if I can run a 650b in the back of that xtracycle, but for now the Ram conversion is happening first. Max On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 12:04:51 PM UTC-4 DavidP wrote: > Max - maybe I'm misunderstanding your intent, but while the Paul site does > suggest the Racers are designed for direct mounting (the center mount > adapter plate is optional), direct mount centerpulls can't be used on > cantilever brake posts. For one the positioning for centerpull brake pivots > and cantilever brake posts is different (centerpull pivots are above the > rim, cantilever / v-brake posts are below the rim). These days there aren't > too many non-custom frames that have centerpull brake mounts, it's more > common to use centerpulls with a plate for central mounting like a standard > road caliper brake. > > -Dave > > On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 9:50:15 PM UTC-4 maxcr wrote: > >> Wow, thank you all for the overwhelming response and for sharing your >> experience. I love the photos, keep 'em coming! >> >> Matt, thanks for the detail on the Tektros, I ordered a pair but also >> decided to pull the trigger on Alex' Mafacs (thanks Alex!) to try out the >> conversion. >> >> Here is what I'll try: >> 1) New 700C RH tires - Bon Jon Pass in standard casings >> 2) Swap out Paul Racers Medium for MAFAC RAID and install 650b Wheels >> with Loup Loup Pass tires or with Hetres (650x42) depending on what fits >> >> I'm not sure when, but I will get to it... I have too many half baked >> projects at the moment, including my half-built Gallop on the stand right >> now, a brakeless Wilbury that will lose its wheels soon and a MMM bubbe >> with an Xtracycle that also needs a 650b conversion - I hope I can use the >> Paul Racers directly on the canti posts, I'm not sure if the plate where >> the bolt sits is removable. >> >> Thanks again to everyone and I'll report back. >> >> Max >> On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 1:33:13 PM UTC-4 >> ber...@bernardduhon.com wrote: >> >>> Careful with offset brake pad’s >>> If tires are wide pad my rub on tire >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com <rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> on >>> behalf of Toshi Takeuchi <tto...@gmail.com> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 25, 2023 12:02:58 PM >>> *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com <rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> >>> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Considering trading my Ram for a Lightning Bolt >>> >>> I concur with Evan. I had a 54 cm 650b Ram with 54 mm Hetre/Baby Shoe >>> Pass tires and SKS fenders. It was as good as my custom bike, except for >>> the toe overlap and dynamo wiring. I used thin profile V-brake style pads >>> to get a little extra reach with the Tektro R559. That strategy may be >>> able to be combined with the offset brake-pad holders if needed. >>> >>> Toshi >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 9:16 AM Evan E. <evanel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Alex, >>> >>> Here for your reference is a photo of my Rambouillet with 650b wheels, >>> Tektro R559 brakes, and Pari-Moto 650b x 42 tires. I used offset brake-pad >>> holders on the rear caliper to get a tad more reach. If it turns out you >>> need a bit more reach on your bike, let me know. 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