One can only try. On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:24 AM, jim phillips <thefamil...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Robert, very nicely put. I agree with everything you said. But, we won't > use up all the "dino" fuel until long after you and I are gone. > > jimP > >> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:14:04 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18 >> From: zeidler.rob...@gmail.com >> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> >> Living where I live in New England, cycling year round is impractical, >> plus for my business, I have to be places, sometimes from Boston, to >> Hartford, to Brattlebor all in the same day. >> >> To that end, I needed to able to carry things, people, plow my >> driveway when needed etc., So I dive a 4 dr Dodge diesel pick-up. >> Earlier in it's life I was able to buy B100 (pure veg diesel fuel), >> and in colder whether, down to around 30 deg, I'd run B-20 (20% of >> same). Below that only traeted fuel will work w/o the dreaded gelling >> that occurs. >> >> A funny thing started coming to my attention. Every time the price of >> "dino" diesel went up, Bio-fuels went up so they were always slightly >> higher. When I asked why, my Bio-fuel dealer told me that the state >> Dept of Consumer Protection (or whomever) had mandated this so that >> bio-fuels didn't get "a competitive advantage"(!). I gave up at that >> point. I commute (35 miles one-way) when I can, drive when I need to >> and do what's necessary to make a living. >> >> I've spent time in Evanston IL, just off the Red Line (I think) and >> never drove anywhere, even caught the train out to O'hare. Pretty >> nice but that will never, ever happen in this day of NIMBY. People >> won't allow it. But if not for that system, those residents would be >> driving also, without a doubt. >> >> As stated in another thread, I'm hoping I see the day when there is no >> more fuel oil, coal etc., available-use it all up as fast as you can, >> be glutenous in your consumption. We'll then get nukes, and >> everything will be electric. Without those reliable sources of power, >> which solar/wind will never provide, we >> re screwed anyway. That goes for the rest of the world. Nobody in a >> developing country thinks about 50 years down the road, that's a >> luxury we have in the U.S., Europe, etc. BTW, the reason the Euro's >> can put money into bike lanes, alt trans projects, etc., is because >> they don't have much of a defense budget-we do that for them!!! Think >> about it, U.S. bases all over Europe, and trust me, the governments >> want us there to do that heavy lifting. >> >> Lastly, so there is no confusion, I respect the gentleman's right to >> follow his conscience. He is free and right to do so, as long as what >> he does, does not pee in the water upstream from where others drink. >> >> Sorry, a bit long. >> >> RGZ >> >> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:51 AM, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> >> wrote: >> > Liked the editorial, but disagree with one of GP's points. >> > >> > I gave up cars completely and flying for all but work and emergencies >> > 6 years ago because they are such wasteful modes of transit. To me it >> > is a green choice. I realize my actions mean very little with most >> > here in Chicago wtill in cars and O'Hare handling so much unnecessary >> > flying. >> > >> > I believe my choices are the correct ones. So I follow my conscious, >> > whether it fixes the planet or not. >> > >> > On Jan 19, 7:26 am, newenglandbike <matthiasbe...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Wow, that's a good read. "Cars and bikes both are vehicles, in the >> >> same way that a Glock and a Squirtgun are both guns" is a kind of >> >> potent analogy right now, however imprecise analogies may be. >> >> >> >> The point about bicycle culture/laws in Holland, and the reasonability >> >> of incentives for commuting in a safe, non-polluting manner is >> >> something that's resonated with me for a long time. Sometimes I long >> >> to move to a place like that, but then I wonder why shouldn't I just >> >> try to be be more active in trying to help change happen here, which >> >> i'm woefully not and just riding a bike doesn't really do >> >> anything. It seems futile riding a bike for 'green' reasons, or >> >> because you think it's right thing to do-- even if you do it for those >> >> reasons-- and it's easy to end up suppressing frustration at the >> >> status quo, but reading stuff like this always brings it back to the >> >> surface, which is probably a good thing. um I doubt that makes any >> >> sense. which means it's probably too early for me to be typing right >> >> now. yesterday's ride home west of boston was a slush-ice >> >> nightmare. Thank god for studded tires but even they were out of >> >> their league. we were expecting some weather, but if i knew it >> >> would be that bad I would've stayed home. >> >> >> >> On Jan 18, 7:23 pm, James Warren <jimcwar...@earthlink.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > There's an interesting editorial on rivbike right now about how bikes >> >> > aren't the same as cars. >> >> >> >> > It reminds me of something I often remember when teaching students: >> >> > the idea that doing what's right and fair for a kid is sometimes not the >> >> > same thing for any two given kids. >> >> >> >> > -Jim W.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > >> > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >
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