I have an Atlantis built in early 2009 by Mark Nobilette. It's a 61, I waited almost a year for it. It's an excellent bike! On Jan 27, 7:23 pm, William Pustow <bpus...@aol.com> wrote: > My 2007 Hilsen was made by Waterford. It took awhile because the story I > got from Rivendell was that Grant was not happy with the fork and was having > Mark Nobilette build it. > Bill - who loves his Homer and thinks the fork was waiting for. > > On Jan 27, 2011, at 3:45 PM, JoelMatthews wrote: > > > > >> For example, are their differences between the acclaimed Toyo and current > >> Waterford forks? > > > Does Waterford make the Atlantis forks? > > > Nobilette made the early Waterford Hilsen forks. > > > On Jan 26, 12:42 pm, Bob <prov...@umbc.edu> wrote: > >> The current Riv Atlantis is built by Waterford. My original question > >> concerned whether, excluding paint, braze ons and probably tubing, the > >> Waterford is identical to the Toyo build. This is not questionaing the > >> obviously excellent Riv quality, but about subtle specifics of > >> interest to velohistorians an bike nerds. The question remains > >> unanswered. For example, are their differences between the acclaimed > >> Toyo and current Waterford forks? What about subtle bends in the > >> chainstay and other tubing? There must be things that Toyo and > >> Waterford do uniquely well. What are they? > > >> On Jan 26, 1:19 pm, Ryan <ryter...@mts.net> wrote: > > >>> As far as I know, Atlantises (Atlanti?) were only Toyo-built. But I'm > >>> sure that someone will correct me if I'm wrong. > > >>> My impression is that later models...I'm thinking of the AHH in > >>> particular ...were either Toyo or Waterford-built. And as others on > >>> this thread have noted, the Sams are either built by Waterford or in > >>> Taiwan under the supervision of Toyo > > >>> That being said, regardless of the origin, Grant's design philosophy > >>> and attention to detail are evident...you say tomaytoes and I say > >>> tomaahtoes . Rivendells are great bikes > > >>> Regards, > >>> Ryan in Winnipeg,MB > > >>> On Jan 22, 10:34 pm, Bob <prov...@umbc.edu> wrote: > > >>>> How does the Toyo built Atlantis differ in quality and/or geometry > >>>> from the Waterford edition? Exclude differences in braze-ons, > >>>> kickstand plate and range of sizes. > > >>>> In other words, what, if anything, was gained or lost by the change in > >>>> builder?- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
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