On May 16, 2011, at 7:19 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote:

> On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 21:44 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
> 
>> But how do the Paris-Roubaix and the GB do on firm dirt and gravel?
> 
> I was on one dirt road ride last year where a friend had 28mm
> Paris-Roubaix tires.  She flatted almost immediately as soon as we got
> on the gravel, and then flatted again later on.  
> 
> I've had the 30mm Grand Bois Cypres on gravel roads for a few miles and
> they're ridden fine, but I wasn't on the gravel long enough to draw any
> conclusions about durability in that environment.  
> 
> Simply because of their relative narrowness (compared to the 650B tires
> I have on other bikes) I wouldn't set out with them to do a dirt road
> ride, but if I encountered a stretch of dirt road in the middle of a
> long ride I wouldn't blanch or (as I've seen folks on 23mm racing tires
> do) shriek "Gravel, for the love of God!!!" come to a sudden halt, stop
> and carry the bike over the offending gravel section.

Strange to me.  I've ridden many miles on 23 mm tires of gravel.  Unless the 
gravel is loose it's not a problem.  But then I grew up doing a lot of riding 
on gravel; I just keep going because it doesn't feel funny to me.  It's 
probably like the Belgians and cobbles- just what you're used to.  My 
grandparents lived on a farm in Michigan surrounded by gravel roads.  There are 
a bunch of gravel road enthusiasts around the Twin Cities, have their own 
mailing list and (appropriately enough) loosely organized rides.  I haven't 
gotten out to any of those, having previously had a lot of schedule conflicts 
on the weekends.

I've noticed that gravel used on roads is much larger than it used to be; when 
I was a kid gravel on roads tended to be fine grained (1/4" or smaller) and 
"locked down" pretty quickly but nowadays gravel seems to be 1/2" to 1" as a 
general rule.  The bigger gravel is less stable under a wheel.  Given the 
politics that erupt around gravel mining locally, it is possible that- like 
oil- we've used up a lot of the higher quality easily accessible resources.

IME coarser gravel needs bigger tires to avoid plowing through it and bogging 
down.

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