Oh, if only I didn't have 2 kids to put through college over the next
5 years...
I'd say it's a sound investment... and it will likely be a total hoot
to ride... whatever "it" ends up being...

Jamison, I'm gonna hafta come see yours in Red Hook... Perhaps we need
a winter Riv Rally NYC... meet in Prospect Park, then ride over the
Brooklyn Bridge and circumscribe Manhattan...

Peace,
BB

On Jun 21, 9:21 pm, Ray Shine <r.sh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Interesting. I wonder why the Kevlar drive would be so much more prone to 
> failure than the Kevlar drive belt on my 1400cc motorcycle, which has never 
> failed or had a problem? Different Kevlar?
>
>
>
> >________________________________
> >From: charlie <charles_v...@hotmail.com>
> >To: RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 5:54 PM
> >Subject: [RBW] Re: HS
>
> >Well.....I hear those belts are finicky and can be damaged if not
> >handled properly. Carrying a spare is not such an easy task either due
> >to how you have to maintain the shape or whatever, besides the link
> >chain revolutionized the world and I can fix it myself.
> >The idea of disc brakes appeals to me though since it rains here so
> >much your rims get ground to nothing in no time.
>
> >On Jun 21, 2:48 pm, doug peterson <dougpn...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> Jamison:
>
> >> Good for you to be in a position & have the faith to sign up.
> >> Hopefully the first run will get scattered all over the country and
> >> NOT concentrated around San Francisco Bay.  Then the rest of us could
> >> have a hope of seeing one in person.  All this speculation is
> >> intriguing but I predict Grant's got a few surprises in store for us.
> >> I gotta admit the dual range crank coupled with an IGH, using a belt
> >> drive, has a lot of merit, at least in concept.
>
> >> dougP
>
> >> On Jun 21, 8:31 am, jamison brosseau <jamison.bross...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > I signed up.  I know nothing though.  It will b a good bike.
>
> >> > On Jun 20, 10:58 pm, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > ....and now SEVEN of them are sold.  I'm pleasantly surprised.  I'm
> >> > > waiting for a lister to speak up and say that they've put their money
> >> > > down.
>
> >> > > On Jun 20, 7:09 pm, "Bill Gibson (III)" <bill.bgib...@gmail.com>
> >> > > wrote:
>
> >> > > > Retro-direct, anyone?
>
> >> > > > My guess is that he means it when theHSwill be a more "elegant", 
> >> > > > maybe a
> >> > > > more "integrated" design. It may be less of a bike meant to be widely
> >> > > > adaptable to different configurations, as many Rivendell designs 
> >> > > > are. But it
> >> > > > won't be a single-purpose bike at all.
>
> >> > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 6:34 PM, charlie <charles_v...@hotmail.com> 
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > Yea that looks pretty cool........off road looking which seems to 
> >> > > > > be
> >> > > > > where the Riv folks ride quite a bit.
>
> >> > > > > On Jun 20, 5:29 pm, Montclair BobbyB <montclairbob...@gmail.com>
> >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > Read more about it here...
>
> >> > > > > >http://tinyurl.com/3g7eyk4
>
> >> > > > > > Could this be it???  If so, that's some pretty funky stuff...
>
> >> > > > > > On Jun 20, 8:22 pm, Montclair BobbyB <montclairbob...@gmail.com>
> >> > > > > > wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > > OK folks... HERE is the solution toHS.... (And thanks Esteban 
> >> > > > > > > for
> >> > > > > > > giving me a clue)... It stands for Hammerschmidt... it's a 
> >> > > > > > > 2-speed
> >> > > > > > > crankset developed by SRAM (similar to the Schlumpf) with a 
> >> > > > > > > built-in
> >> > > > > > > transmission (in the crank).  It obviates the need for a front
> >> > > > > > > derailleur.  The question is whether this will be an all-out 
> >> > > > > > > front AND
> >> > > > > > > rear internal transmission bike... I say yes, it will.
>
> >> > > > > > > OK, everyone can watch reality TV once again, I'm spent....
>
> >> > > > > > > Peace,
> >> > > > > > > BB
>
> >> > > > > > > On Jun 20, 7:47 pm, Roger <rogerdhod...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > > > "I'm not familiar with the SA 8-speed.  Is the shifter 
> >> > > > > > > > indexed or
> >> > > > > just
> >> > > > > > > > the hub?"
>
> >> > > > > > > > The SA 8-speed hub isn't indexed, but it definitely wants to 
> >> > > > > > > > be
> >> > > > > > > > centered into each gear without much feedback. Supposedly 
> >> > > > > > > > Sheldon
> >> > > > > > > > Brown could do it, but like 99% of the things Sheldon could 
> >> > > > > > > > do, it
> >> > > > > was
> >> > > > > > > > beyond my skills. I miss Sheldon.
>
> >> > > > > > > > Part of the allure of the thumbshifter (which would be about 
> >> > > > > > > > equal
> >> > > > > > > > with a barend shifter) was that I used the 
> >> > > > > > > > wheel/cable/shifter setup
> >> > > > > > > > as a self-contained module that I could have on or off of my 
> >> > > > > > > > single
> >> > > > > > > > speed bike in a couple of minutes with nothing but 2 or 3 
> >> > > > > > > > zipties for
> >> > > > > > > > the cable and tightening the shifter clamp on the bar. 
> >> > > > > > > > Except for the
> >> > > > > > > > constant "is it in or out of gear" fiddliness and 
> >> > > > > > > > ker-chunking out of
> >> > > > > > > > gear under load it was great. I'd like a clamp-on downtube 
> >> > > > > > > > shifter
> >> > > > > > > > best of all for this concept.
>
> >> > > > > > > > On Jun 20, 2:53 pm, Kenneth Stagg <kenneth.st...@gmail.com> 
> >> > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Roger 
> >> > > > > > > > > <rogerdhod...@gmail.com>
> >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > > > " It would be very cool if they also made a real shifter 
> >> > > > > > > > > > for the
> >> > > > > > > > > > Rohloff.  I'm not in the market for a new bike but I'd 
> >> > > > > > > > > > be very,
> >> > > > > very
> >> > > > > > > > > > happy to get a bar end shifter that was setup to handle 
> >> > > > > > > > > > the extra
> >> > > > > > > > > > throw required by the Rohloff!  I'd ditch that damned 
> >> > > > > > > > > > twist
> >> > > > > shifter in
> >> > > > > > > > > > a split second."
>
> >> > > > > > > > > > I feel the same way about the SA 8-speed I have and its 
> >> > > > > > > > > > twist
> >> > > > > shifter.
>
> >> > > > > > > > > I'm not familiar with the SA 8-speed.  Is the shifter 
> >> > > > > > > > > indexed or
> >> > > > > just
> >> > > > > > > > > the hub?  The silly thing about not offering a bar-end or 
> >> > > > > > > > > similar
> >> > > > > for
> >> > > > > > > > > the Rohloff is that the shifter has no indexing - it's all 
> >> > > > > > > > > handled
> >> > > > > at
> >> > > > > > > > > the hub - so the only issues are the dual cable setup 
> >> > > > > > > > > (easy enough)
> >> > > > > > > > > and pulling enough cable (more work but doable.)
>
> >> > > > > > > > > -Ken
>
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