The Homer/Romulus comparison is accurate. I've owned both, and they felt 
practically identical.
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 7:51:18 PM UTC-7, Darin G. wrote:

> I own one of the original green Sams, 56.  I'm very close to you in height 
> and build.  5'10", PBH 87.  I run Mavic A719s with Jack Brown Blue tires. 
>  This bike is a wonderful commuter, set up with Noodles and a small front 
> rack and large rear.  I have done two centuries on it.  I also have a 
> Romulus.  The difference between the two bikes is not nuanced and the Rom 
> is my definite go-to bike when I'm just on a ride and don't need to carry 
> more than will fit in a small saddlebag (Carradice Barley).  
>
> Interestingly, when the Sam first came out Rivendell compared it to the 
> Homer and suggested they were essentially the same, function-wise. 
>  Elsewhere Rivendell claimed the Homer was essentially the same as a 
> Rambouillet (an upscale Romulus), ride-wise, with the only difference 
> between the two being the Homer's ability to run wider tires.  My 
> experience with the Romulus and the Sam is that there is a lot more space 
> between the two than you would be led to believe by their promotional 
> material.  Now, I haven't ridden a Homer, but if its biases lean towards 
> the Ram/Rom end of the spectrum, that might be THE ONE.
>
> The Sam is a wonderful bike, comfortable, steady, and true.  I just 
> wouldn't call it fastish, and if you have a true touring bike I think 
> you'll find it very similar to what you already have.
>
> D.G.
>  
>
> On Sunday, March 25, 2012 5:13:21 PM UTC-6, SeanMac wrote:
>>
>> I'm considering pulling the trigger on one of the new blue Sam 
>> Hillborne's.  They look like really wonderful bikes.  Strong, versatile, 
>> attractive are words that come to mind when I think about this bike.  These 
>> are qualities that I find attractive.  However, I also like to go fastish.  
>> Can I do this with a Sam as well?
>>
>> I'm pushing 45 years old.  A few years ago I had a custom made go-fast 
>> bike built for me.  That bike goes fast, but is limited in what it can do.  
>> I also have a Trek 520 Touring bike.  This bike, obviously, is built for 
>> touring.  Its not very fast, nor very lively.  In short, my Trek isn't much 
>> fun to ride.  I'm looking for a bike to fit in between these two bikes -- 
>> one that will be able to carry a few bags and ride on stone dust bike paths 
>> (such as the Erie Canal path), but one that will not feel sluggish to ride 
>> (like my Trek).
>>
>> Most of the time, when I see photos of Sams, the bikes seem to be set up 
>> to be workhorses -- carrying a collection of bags and racks.  I want to be 
>> able to do this with a bike (thus the attraction to the bike in the first 
>> place).  However, I would like to use noodle bars and go on fast-ish club 
>> and recreational rides as well.  In fact, the vast majority of rides will 
>> be  20 - 30 mile "out for fun and exercise" rides.  Is the Sam well suited 
>> to this as well, or will it likely feel more like my Trek 520?  Most likely 
>> I would set up a Sam with Noodle bars and tires such as Roly-Poly or Jack 
>> Browns.
>>
>> I'm also considering having a custom built randonneur bike -- one that 
>> will be able to carry some load but also feel quick and lively to ride.  
>> However, if the Sam will meet my needs, it certainly would be a less 
>> expensive alternative.  I don't think that my body has any proportions that 
>> would make me difficult to fit (5ft, 11 inches tall, PBH 87.5, arm length 
>> 35 inches) so I don't think that I *need* to go custom (though it sure 
>> is fun to do so!).
>>
>> Any thoughts on whether a Sam would be a good choice would be appreciated.
>>
>> Sean
>>
>

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