"One may look good on the outside and still have a heart attack at 57 due to a lifetime of poor diet choices" and "more likely the natural skinny guy is the one that has the heart attack and the fat guy lives to be 85. What am I trying to say? Its not just what you see on the outside and it may be a false confidence if someone is young and "in shape" to believe that they are living healthy and will always be in shape"
+1 Charlie! Many of the patients I treat fall into this "skinny-fat" category and they always seem amazed to learn there's more to being healthy than having low bodyweight. Cheers! lyle -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 On 7 October 2012 04:14, charlie <cl_v...@hotmail.com> wrote: > One may look good on the outside and still have a heart attack at 57 due > to a lifetime of poor diet choices. Its not just about being lean although > losing body fat is part of the reason I am eating a low carb Primal/Paleo > way.....eating primarily meat,eggs, leafy greens and other actual > vegetables (no, corn is not a vegetable) berries, nuts and some fruit has > allowed me to lose 30 pounds with a very low level of exercise compared to > most people. I know my blood sugar is more stable when I eat this way and I > feel better doing so. When I was younger.....(20's to 30's) I had no > trouble keeping my weight down and I was a full 70 pounds lighter at 30 > years of age than I am at 54. The fat came from eating excessive > carbohydrates like pasta, cookies, beer, pizza, baked goods, ice cream etc. > etc. plus stress and lack of sleep and a reduction in exercise until about > age 42 when I tried riding my fat off without a diet change and never lost > a pound until I tried the Atkins approach but soon stopped that on poor > advice from supposed professionals.....ten years later, I tried it again > eating exactly the same as I did earlier and lost fat effortlessly.....I > might add that we eat plenty of veggies too (not just meat) as some might > think. I do believe some are genetically predisposed to being lean no > matter what they eat but that doesn't mean their diet choices are healthy > or that they will always be lean. Often as those natural lean folks age > they develop a pot belly and their arteries clog just like the big fat guys > does.....heck statistically its more likely the natural skinny guy is the > one that has the heart attack and the fat guy lives to be 85. What am I > trying to say? Its not just what you see on the outside and it may be a > false confidence if someone is young and "in shape" to believe that they > are living healthy and will always be in shape. Here a photo of me at about > 29 to prove my point. > https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2407446671790&set=a.2545020671054.2143016.1419870581&type=3&theater > > > On Saturday, October 6, 2012 3:57:04 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > >> It must be like pedaling in circles -- people are very different. >> >> On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Marc Schwartz <msch...@nmsu.edu> wrote: >> >>> Beer, bread, pasta, and sweeties make Marc look like Jabba the Hut. >>> That's just me, not bein' pedantic here. >>> Marc >>> ______________________________**__________ >>> From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com [rbw-owne...@**googlegroups.com] >>> on behalf of PATRICK MOORE [bert...@gmail.com] >>> >>> Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 3:08 PM >>> To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com >>> >>> Subject: Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again! >>> >>> I can't cite evidence except long-term and widespread custom, but while >>> it may well be true that effective insulin regulation is the -- or *a* -- >>> key to good metabolism, I can't help but think that 10,000 years of >>> agriculture -- ie, grains -- can't help but be natural to the human body >>> (dig the double whatchamacallit negative). 10K years is pretty primal. And >>> more, the Hopi, Chinese, Japanese and Indians didn't start getting fat and >>> diabetic until they began to wean themselves from the rice, maize or wheat >>> that formerly made up most of their diet. OTOH, I've seen no evidence that >>> the traditional Inuit or the Masai suffered from obesity, diabetes, heart >>> trouble or lack of energy because they ate mostly proteins and fats. >>> >>> Sure, traditional people also exercised more than modern couch potatoes, >>> but then the Primal argument says that exercise won't keep it off if you >>> eat carbs. >>> >>> The Italians and French are not noted for statistical excesses of >>> obesity and diabetes and heart disease. >>> >>> Me, I eat my grandmother's primal diet that includes six packs, good >>> bread, pasta as well as vegetables, dairy, wine, and red meat. And I'm 200% >>> fit! As with cycling rules, I prefer to remain a skeptic for >>> one-size-fits-all, while being wholly willing to accept that Primal may >>> work for some people. Well, my one-size-fits-all rule is that modern >>> processing is probably bad. >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Michael Hechmer <mhec...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:mhe**ch...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> This may be stretching the boundaries of the list mission, but we have >>> entertained a long discussion around Why We Get Fat, and if memory serves >>> me right, GP published an article in the Reader, which challenged the >>> wisdom of extreme forms of exercise, like the Iron Man competition. So... >>> >>> I recently stumbled across a web site, http://www.marksdailyapple.** >>> com/#axzz28QX0hvFJ <http://www.marksdailyapple.com/#axzz28QX0hvFJ> while >>> looking for some health info. The author has a whole thing going >>> under the rubric of the Primal Blueprint. While his starting point seemed >>> debatable the conclusions he comes to both about diet and exercise sound >>> practical and congruent with the diet and exercise recommendations from >>> Rivendell. And they build on them. They seem pretty practical, especially >>> around exercise, to someone (moi) who is 68 years old, allergic to >>> "training," but still hoping to maintain an active life for as long as >>> possible. >>> >>> Have others on this list looked into this program more deeply, or tried >>> it out. What did you find, and what do you think? >>> >>> Michael >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/** >>> msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/**8w3oJYZCaucJ<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8w3oJYZCaucJ> >>> . >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com >>> <mailto:rbw-owne...@**googlegroups.com>. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@** >>> googlegroups.com<mailto:rbw-**owners-bunch%2Bunsubscribe@** >>> googlegroups.com>. >>> >>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>> group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en> >>> . >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "Believe nothing until it has been officially denied." >>> -- Claude Cockburn >>> >>> ------------------------- >>> Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA >>> For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW >>> http://resumespecialties.com/**index.html<http://resumespecialties.com/index.html> >>> ------------------------- >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@** >>> googlegroups.com. >>> >>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>> group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en> >>> . >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@** >>> googlegroups.com. >>> >>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>> group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en> >>> . >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> "Believe nothing until it has been officially denied." >> -- Claude Cockburn >> >> ------------------------- >> Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA >> For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW >> http://resumespecialties.com/**index.html<http://resumespecialties.com/index.html> >> ------------------------- >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/55JpbweYvw4J. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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