Again, not to be annoying, this applies to some people and not for others.

Patrick Moore
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On Oct 10, 2012, at 9:12 PM, charlie <cl_v...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I don't doubt Ernest was depressed and it is quite an achievement to lose 200 
> pounds (me only 90 total) and I don't doubt the mind, body, lifestyle thing 
> all have to work together...... I do believe however that eating 
> carbohydrates does drive your blood sugar up causing the yo yo effect 
> creating cravings for more and since they are not burned up or handled by an 
> exhausted pancreas they get stored as fat. Pretty simple to me and is my 
> experience. Eating protein, fat and veggies primarily has made it easier to 
> resist sugar cravings, keeps me satiated and fuels the old body throughout 
> the day without hunger. As far as maintaining the choice to eat that way, 
> yes.......you have to make it a lifestyle change (sometimes on a minute by 
> minute basis) and you can't (without consequences), compromise very often or 
> at all depending on your particular sensitivity. Moving around is important 
> also but I will say that my first 30 pound loss was while I was working 12 
> hours+ a day at a sit down job and doing virtually no exercise other than the 
> very spotty bicycle ride a couple days a week. Working less, sleeping more 
> and moving around are the changes I am slowly making as a few financial 
> things fall into place. The one thing I can easily choose regardless of my 
> current hectic lifestyle however is the type and amount of food I consume. I 
> now end my speech and defer to others.......
> 
> On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:48:49 AM UTC-7, Patrick in VT wrote:I
>> 
>> On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:46:46 AM UTC-4, charlie wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't disagree but without and actual change in what one eats (if trying 
>>> to lose fat) this doesn't work.
>> 
>> On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:46:46 AM UTC-4, charlie wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't disagree but without and actual change in what one eats (if trying 
>>> to lose fat) this doesn't work.
>> 
>> of course food is part of the wellness equation.  my point is that positive 
>> lifestyle choices have a way of gaining momentum and spilling over into 
>> other aspects of our lives.  when we are well, the choice to eat healthfully 
>> and be active becomes less and less of a choice.  like Lyle wrote above, he 
>> "plays" for fitness.  wellness is a self-reinforcing cycle, just as 
>> unhealthy lifestyles and diet are part of a self-reinforcing "vicious 
>> cycle." 
>> 
>> in this context, it doesn't surprise me at all that the truly obese have a 
>> serious struggle as depression, social anxiety and an unhealthy relationship 
>> with food and/or substance abuse trend together.  Food is particularly 
>> tricky because we eat 3-5 times/day - if somebody is bummed out or stressed 
>> out, it's going to be damn hard to do the right thing 3-5/day.  i linked a 
>> bike related story below - I've met this guy.  his story made an impact on 
>> me and got me thinking about how mind and body need to work together to 
>> solve these problems.  the common thread with a lot of the success stories 
>> i've read have to do with goal setting - and not, "i'm going to lose 20lbs 
>> by changing what I eat" kind of goals.  weight loss via diet alone doesn't 
>> address the bigger issue that is lifestyle.  when the going gets rough, 
>> there's nothing to reinforce the positive choices that led to the weight 
>> loss and people inevitably put the weight back on.  setting goals that help 
>> build a supportive social network, promote an active lifestyle, etc. will 
>> guide one to positive choices all around, push us to be the best version of 
>> ourselves and get on the path to mental and physical wellness.  food, both 
>> good and bad, has been around for a long time - to start blaming these foods 
>> or those foods now instead of recognizing and acknowledging cultural issues 
>> and being honest with ourselves about how we live and what we eat is a red 
>> herring.  food is simple.  life isn't - and that's when food becomes 
>> complicated.
>> 
>> http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/06/news/a-bicycle-and-a-few-friends-lead-a-big-man-into-an-even-bigger-world_226368
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