I don't doubt Ernest was depressed and it is quite an achievement to lose 
200 pounds (me only 90 total) and I don't doubt the mind, body, lifestyle 
thing all have to work together...... I do believe however that eating 
carbohydrates does drive your blood sugar up causing the yo yo effect 
creating cravings for more and since they are not burned up or handled by 
an exhausted pancreas they get stored as fat. Pretty simple to me and is my 
experience. Eating protein, fat and veggies primarily has made it easier to 
resist sugar cravings, keeps me satiated and fuels the old body throughout 
the day without hunger. As far as maintaining the choice to eat that way, 
yes.......you have to make it a lifestyle change (sometimes on a minute by 
minute basis) and you can't (without consequences), compromise very often 
or at all depending on your particular sensitivity. Moving around is 
important also but I will say that my first 30 pound loss was while I was 
working 12 hours+ a day at a sit down job and doing virtually no exercise 
other than the very spotty bicycle ride a couple days a week. Working less, 
sleeping more and moving around are the changes I am slowly making as a few 
financial things fall into place. The one thing I can easily choose 
regardless of my current hectic lifestyle however is the type and amount of 
food I consume. I now end my speech and defer to others.......

On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:48:49 AM UTC-7, Patrick in VT wrote:I
>
> On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:46:46 AM UTC-4, charlie wrote:
>>
>> I don't disagree but without and actual change in what one eats (if 
>> trying to lose fat) this doesn't work. 
>>
>
> On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:46:46 AM UTC-4, charlie wrote:
>>
>> I don't disagree but without and actual change in what one eats (if 
>> trying to lose fat) this doesn't work. 
>>
>
> of course food is part of the wellness equation.  my point is that 
> positive lifestyle choices have a way of gaining momentum and spilling over 
> into other aspects of our lives.  when we are well, the choice to eat 
> healthfully and be active becomes less and less of a choice.  like Lyle 
> wrote above, he "plays" for fitness.  wellness is a self-reinforcing cycle, 
> just as unhealthy lifestyles and diet are part of a self-reinforcing 
> "vicious cycle." 
>
> in this context, it doesn't surprise me at all that the truly obese have a 
> serious struggle as depression, social anxiety and an unhealthy 
> relationship with food and/or substance abuse trend together.  Food is 
> particularly tricky because we eat 3-5 times/day - if somebody is bummed 
> out or stressed out, it's going to be damn hard to do the right thing 
> 3-5/day.  i linked a bike related story below - I've met this guy.  his 
> story made an impact on me and got me thinking about how mind and body need 
> to work together to solve these problems.  the common thread with a lot of 
> the success stories i've read have to do with goal setting - and not, "i'm 
> going to lose 20lbs by changing what I eat" kind of goals.  weight loss via 
> diet alone doesn't address the bigger issue that is lifestyle.  when the 
> going gets rough, there's nothing to reinforce the positive choices that 
> led to the weight loss and people inevitably put the weight back on.  
> setting goals that help build a supportive social network, promote an 
> active lifestyle, etc. will guide one to positive choices all around, push 
> us to be the best version of ourselves and get on the path to mental and 
> physical wellness.  food, both good and bad, has been around for a long 
> time - to start blaming these foods or those foods now instead of 
> recognizing and acknowledging cultural issues and being honest with 
> ourselves about how we live and what we eat is a red herring.  food is 
> simple.  life isn't - and that's when food becomes complicated.
>
>
> http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/06/news/a-bicycle-and-a-few-friends-lead-a-big-man-into-an-even-bigger-world_226368
>  
>

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