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On Sunday, October 7, 2012 11:08:18 PM UTC-7, Tim McNamara wrote:
>
> The point of moderation is to prevent problems.  Once you've already got 
> problems, it may be a different story. However, extremity in seeking weight 
> loss may not be a good plan either.  I have known people who developed 
> health problems as a result of the Adkins plan, the "primal" type stuff, 
> etc.  I've also known people helped by it.  These are decisions to be made 
> with the advice of a doctor, not an Internet mailing list or a blog or some 
> other web site.
>
> My Dad was an insulin dependent diabetic from the age of 6, which he 
> developed as a consequence of having had polio in 1935.  He took two to 
> three shots of insulin a day for the rest of his life, which was about 25 
> years longer than he had been told to expect (he lived to be 67).  It's a 
> disease best prevented.  Even though he was compliant with diet and 
> treatment, it still took a toll on his health (coronary artery disease, 
> peripheral vascular disease, peripheral neuropathy but oddly no problems 
> with kidneys or eyes).  He had a great endocrinologist... It's so much 
> better not to need a great endocrinologist.  As a result I pay a lot of 
> attention since I may have an increased risk, although no doctor can tell 
> me for sure since diabetes does not run strongly in the family on either 
> side.  
>
>
>
> On Oct 7, 2012, at 9:49 PM, charlie <cl_...@hotmail.com <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
> Kind of agree and kind of don't.......(for some) trying to lose fat, 
> moderation amounts to no progress. For those people it takes absolute 
> vigilance and resolve without any wavering to lose fat and maintain their 
> effort. Compromise just doesn't end well ultimately. Maybe for the average 
> person that idea is okay......I'll give ya that. For someone on the edge of 
> diabetes, compromise will put them over the edge into the abyss of insulin 
> injections and a decline in the quality of life.
>
> On Sunday, October 7, 2012 9:02:23 AM UTC-7, Tim McNamara wrote:
>>
>> Too much of anything is bad for you.  Too many carbs, too much fat, too 
>> much protein, too much water, too much alcohol, too much exercise, too much 
>> laziness, too much stress, etc.   Humans are omnivorous in many ways and 
>> can thrive in an amazing variety of situations. 
>>
>> Moderation in all things, including moderation. 
>>
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