> Joan, I think you're assuming that an authority record will be created for every > new name cataloged under RDA. In practice, I doubt this will happen..
Yes. You are right. The assumption seems to hardly happen :) Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Arakawa, Steven <steven.arak...@yale.edu>wrote: > Joan, I think you're assuming that an authority record will be created for > every new name cataloged under RDA. In practice, I doubt this will happen.. > > Does AACR2 state explicitly that affiliations are to be left out of the > statement of responsibility? I don't see anything in 1.1F7 that seems to > apply. We are told to omit, except under certain circumstances: "titles and > abbreviations of titles of nobility, address, honour, and distinction, > initials of societies, qualifications, date(s) of founding, mottoes, etc." > [followed by the exceptions]. The only term I could pick out was > "qualifications," but it seems a stretch to include affiliations under that > category. None of the examples address affiliations so one could infer that > the rule does not apply to such cases. In the actual examples of omissions, > leaving out "Dr." in Dr. Harry Smith detracts from identification (ex. 1), > the Library Association (ex. 2) seems like a pretty generic name so > including the date of founding can't hurt, and "the late" from "by the > late T.A. Rennard" (ex. 3) tells us that the manifestation was published > posthumously. I think leaving in the "extras" enhances identification. It > is not clear to me whether the list of omissions is to include religious > titles, although this seems to be a common practice. > > The advantage of the representation principle for the statement of > responsibility is simplicity. If you follow the AACR2 path it results in a > whole mess of complicated decisions on what to leave in and what to leave > out. I also think the RDA principle supports identification of the persons > listed in the statement of responsibility, and, in some cases, suggests the > author's point of view. It would help in making an authority record created > retroactively (remembering the pre AACR2 practice of leaving out the > statement of responsibility which was much deplored). > > The best practice for punctuation in order to demarcate person from > affiliation has been a problem for me so very much like Kevin Randall's > suggestion. > > Steven Arakawa > Catalog Librarian for Training & Documentation > Catalog & Metada Services > Sterling Memorial Library. Yale University > P.O. Box 208240 New Haven, CT 06520-8240 > (203) 432-8286 steven.arak...@yale.edu > > > > From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Joan Wang > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 1:27 PM > To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA > Subject: Re: [RDA-L] S-o-R/RDA 2.4.1.4 > > > All of this information on persons' affiliations could be recorded in > our authority > records -- is it really necessary to repeat it all in our > bibliographic records as > > well? > > I got an impression that one day data represented in authority records > could be viewed or searched in end-users' clients. > > Thanks, > Joan Wang > Illinois Heartland Library System > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Charles Croissant <crois...@slu.edu> > wrote: > I too would like to add my voice in support of Ben's position. Applying > 2.4.1.4 as it stands, without applying the optional admission, is bound to > lead in some cases to extremely lengthy and hard-to-read statements of > responsibility, especially when four or more authors and/or editors are > named on the title page, with each name followed by an affiliation. Is this > truly what the JSC and LC/PCC intended with this wording and this policy > statement? > > I understand the value of RDA's principle of representation, but, like > Ben, I see a need for balance as well. All of this information on persons' > affiliations could be recorded in our authority records -- is it really > necessary to repeat it all in our bibliographic records as well? > > Charles Croissant > Senior Catalog Librarian > Pius XII Memorial Library > Saint Louis University > St. Louis, MO 63108 > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Benjamin A Abrahamse <babra...@mit.edu> > wrote: > Gene, > > I wish it were so. > > But 2.4.1.4 states, "Transcribe a statement of responsibility in the form > in which it appears on the source of information." Immediately followed by > the "optional omission", "Abridge a statement of responsibility only if it > can be abridged without loss of essential information." I have looked in > vain for something similar to AACR2 1.1F7., "Include titles and > abbreviations of titles of nobility, address, honour, and distinction ... > Otherwise, omit all such data from statements of responsibility", and not > found it. I have also queried the RDA luminaries on this list and been > told that including affiliations if they appear on the t.p. is part of > RDA's adherence to "principle of representation". > > The fact that there are no examples of this in RDA just means JSC either > didn't think of it or didn't want to get into it. Moreover the example I > copied to the list was one I found in OCLC (there are plenty more of them, > if you start looking). So, if this is not what RDA intends, the rules need > to be made clearer, as it's how catalogers are interpreting it. > > Personally I would prefer that the optional omission be applied in these > cases. There is value to the "principle of representation" of course, but I > believe that value needs to be balanced against the fact that title pages > have many more visual devices available to them (use of white space, font > and font size, italic vs. roman, etc.) to communicate to users what > information is essential and what is not. Since these cues are not > available in a surrogate, the cataloger should be able (and encouraged) to > use his or her editorial judgment. > > --Ben > > Benjamin Abrahamse > Cataloging Coordinator > Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems > MIT Libraries > 617-253-7137 > > > -- > > > > -- > Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. > Cataloger -- CMC > Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) > 6725 Goshen Road > Edwardsville, IL 62025 > 618.656.3216x409 > 618.656.9401Fax > -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax
