Status based vs. belief based.

On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:10 PM, Arthur Spitzer wrote:

> I find Steve Jamar's post ("No one needs to be an employer") puzzling.  Could 
> Congress enact a statute providing "observant Roman Catholics (or Moslems, or 
> Jews, or Seventh Day Adventists, or Mormons) may not be employers"?  
> 
> Would such a statute be different, in its burden on such people, from a 
> statute saying "all employers must do X, when X is something that observant 
> Roman Catholics (or Moslems, or Jews, or Seventh Day Adventists, or Mormons) 
> cannot do?
> 
> I'm not saying such a statute would be unconstitutional. I'm just asking if 
> the burden would be different.
> 
> Art Spitzer
> 
> 
> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Steven Jamar <stevenja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How about an employer being exempt from buying insurance, but then paying a 
> tax that goes into a pool for the government to buy group insurance for those 
> employees.  How is that substantively different from just requiring the 
> insurance benefit in the first place?  And yet this sort of tax seemed ok to 
> Mark.  I don't see how this really insulates the employer from the complicity 
> in evil through paying for it.  Is the "agreement" (coerced agreement is 
> agreement?) that different?
> 
> Isn't the proper agreement the one between the employer and society that lets 
> the employer exploit the economic system and all of its supports in exchange 
> for doing business within the rules of commerce to be followed by everyone?  
> That agreement may be one with the devil, but no one is making the person 
> agree to it.  No one needs to be an employer.
> 
> Steve
> 
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> thinking individuals who, however, see in the service to the community their 
> highest life achievement."
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> Albert Einstein
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Prof. Steven D. Jamar                     vox:  202-806-8017
Associate Director, Institute for Intellectual Property and Social Justice 
http://iipsj.org
Howard University School of Law           fax:  202-806-8567
http://iipsj.com/SDJ/

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internal violence of spirit. You not only refuse to shoot a man, but you refuse 
to hate him."

Martin Luther King, Jr.




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