RE: [RemEnKimi] Re: Coptic word

[Ambrose Boles]

Hi Bashandy and Marayme,

I don’t know what the difference between Arabic yala/wala and yalla is exactly as my Arabic isn’t very good. However, looking through the Coptic glossary of:

Youssef, Ahman Abdel-Hamid. From Pharaoh’s Lips: Ancient Egyptian Language in the Arabic of Today. Cairo: American University Press. 2003.

I noticed the following entry:

alou ‘lw (Demotic), ‘child, boy,’ used in _expression_ íÇÚíá ya‘ayyil! and its contracted form y-ala! ‘hey, young man!’

I’m not sure how reliable the book is as some of its entries seem a bit dubious, but I thought it might be helpful.

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From: "Bahsandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: RemEnKimi@yahoogroups.com
To: RemEnKimi@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RemEnKimi] Re: Coptic word
Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 11:08:46 -0700

Hello Maryame,
I think Ambrose Boulos, meant 'Yala', 'wala' : which are derived from 'Alou'
Quoting Dr.Emile Maher at tape (1 or 2) of Copto-Arabica.

However, Yalla: as let's Go. was mentioned on the Book of Georgy Sobhy Bey. As a derivative from the Greek word 'ELA', the link below is a scan from the book.
Common words in the spoken Arabic of Egypt, of Greek or Coptic origin

http://www.coptic.org/language/georgy/3.jpg

Its Coptic equivalent is  'MARON' it is mentioned in the Gospel of St.John Ch.14, also it's part of the Gospel reading of the TERCE prayer of the horologion (Ajbeya)
http://www.geocities.com/remenkimi/terce.htm



On Fri, 25 May 2007 23:00:16 +0100
"Ambrose Boles" <ambroseboles@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hello Maryame.

I read a while ago in:

Emil Maher Ishak. The Phonetics and Phonology of the Bohairic Dialect of Coptic and the Survival of Coptic Words in the Colloquial and Classical Arabic of Egypt and of Coptic Grammatical Constructions in Colloquial Arabic. Volumes 1 - 4. (A D.Phil Thesis submitted to the University of Oxford, September 1975).

that Arabic "yalla" is derived from the Coptic word alou "child" (in the Old Bohairic pronunciation). I can't remember the details as I read it quickly and I don't have access to the thesis at present. Hopefully someone who has ready access can check it out – it was in the Survival of Coptic Words in the Colloquial and Classic Arabic of Egypt section of the thesis.

 

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From: "maryame_georgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]com>
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Subject: [RemEnKimi] Coptic word
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 10:13:41 -0000

Hello,
I wanted to ask if the word "YALLA" used in the Egyptian dialect( it
means let's go) has any coptic backgrounds. If it does, what does it
really mean and is it used correctly until now?

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