Those bright shiny boxes that you just plug in and they work cost some bright and shiny bucks, if that is the way you need to go thats ok. Call Paravel systems and they will sell you a Turnkey Rivendell system, read the manual and go. On Oct 5, 2011 1:22 AM, "James Laurence" <jameslaure...@hotmail.co.nz> wrote: > > Just something I'd like to throw in, which I think has been overlooked in the discussion thus far. > > Not all radio-stations have a Linux person at their disposal who can build, customise, maintain, and troubleshoot, a broadcasting automation solution based on Rivendell/Linux. What say the radio-station is in a relatively small locality where there is simply no such person available or willing to become part of the equation? > > While there is absolutely no doubt that Linux has significant advantages (in numerous areas) over Windows, and is an IT guru's paradise in that the sky's the limit as to what can be achieved, it's no use at all if there's no-one available to do the ongoing hands-on work inevitably entailed. > > Many Linux IT people have a well-justified [and almost pathological] hatred of Windows, but the fact remains that there are some installations which consist of mainly non-IT staff who would prefer to buy a Windows broadcasting product out of a shiny box (so to speak), read the instructions in the Manual, install it the standard Windows way, then run their automation/station under a standard Windows system. Simply because: (a) it is adequate for what they want, (b) their focus is not on technical or ideological perfection, (c) they know Windows and are comfortable with it, and (d) their system can be maintained without the need for a constant and ongoing [and exhausting] attempt to keep abreast of the open-source world and its limitless boundaries. > > In summary, there are some very good broadcasting automation systems out there which run perfectly adequately on Windows configurations, and are reliable and robust. These are ideal for broadcasting situations which have non-IT people who have no interest in getting their hands dirty, but just want a stable system which is not constantly hands-on. > > Just because Rivendell is not heading in that particular direction, doesn't mean that we should condemn those folk who prefer the alternative, and want an easier life and a more 'standard' way of achieving their goal. In the vast majority of cases, listeners will never know the difference, and that's the point to be remembered. Windows is not totally bad, and Linux is not for everyone. > > James L. > > > > > > Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 22:01:09 -0500 > From: t...@wnsp.com > To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org > Subject: Re: [RDD] Windows and Rivendell > > > Ok, I've got to put my two cents in... > The company that runs more servers than just about anyone else on thr planet runs Linux. > Microsoft runs their web servers for microsoft. com on linux. > Why. bulletproof stabiity, what more would you want in a production enviroment? > For years before Rivendell became available I was hoping for a linux based broadcast suite for just this reason. > I just had a Rvendell box go down recently because the hard drive failed, it had been in service without a reboot for 1283 days. > Port Rivendell to windows? For what purpose. Unless maybe you want to run it along side some viruses or malware :) > Cheers > On Oct 4, 2011 8:41 PM, "James Harrison" <ja...@talkunafraid.co.uk> wrote: >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> As Tim has already mentioned- why Windows? >> >> I just recently stepped down as engineer of a station which started out >> 100% Windows two years ago and is now 90% Linux (switching to Rivendell >> for main playout was judged too dramatic a change - the station was just >> granted an FM license, which is a big deal here, and management didn't >> want to change playout at the same time- possibly they'll move in a >> year's time). Rivendell is used there for backup playout and outside >> broadcasts, though. >> >> Windows has a multitude of downsides when it comes to audio, management, >> stability and reliability. For instance, our main playout box has a big >> of a snag in that you can't install Windows Updates without it >> bluescreening next time it reboots, and we have to reboot everything >> every month or two just to keep things running smoothly. Not great from >> an engineering standpoint. Then there's the issues with security, user >> accounts, remote access, time synchronization, system updates (that >> don't break everything), and so on. There's no real upside! >> >> The amount of work required to port things like the core audio engine, >> interprocess communications daemon and other services would be >> nontrivial, and with Windows being such a huge step backwards from Linux >> on nearly all important points from the perspective of radio stations, >> where's the point? The only benefit of Windows is familiarity, and it >> doesn't take long to get familiar with Linux. We transitioned most of >> the desktop stuff without any training whatsoever and everyone picked it >> up fast enough. >> >> But as mentioned already- it's open source software. If you can write C, >> get porting! If you really had to have Windows for your frontends, you >> would only need to port (I think) rdairplay, rdlogmanager, rdlogedit, >> rdcatch and ripcd- you could remote the rest to a Linux hosted audio >> engine/import system... in theory at least! Still going to take you a >> long, long time. Perhaps better spent learning Linux? :) >> >> Cheers, >> James Harrison >> >> >> On 05/10/2011 02:25, Logan Corliss wrote: >>> Hi, I am currently running Rivendell on ubuntu and its ok and all but I >> also am really looking for a Radio Automation program that runs on >> Windows. I was wondering if there was any plans to make this working on >> Windows or if there is a code in progress that would allow Rivendell >> with all of its features to run on Windows. 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