Yes, that's a better idea. #reactos-gsoc

On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 6:53 PM, Alex Ionescu <ion...@videotron.ca> wrote:

> I don't agree. Maintain the auto-voice lists and get someone in charge of
> operations, like I used to be for many years on IRC.
>
> Instead, why not create a #reactos-gsoc or something?
>
> Best regards,
> Alex Ionescu
>
> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Mark Jansen <learn0more+...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> We can always try it out?
>> If it doesnt work, restoring it is a simple as setting a flag on the
>> channel.
>>
>> On 24 March 2017 at 16:31, David Quintana (gigaherz) <gigah...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I disagree -- if we can be firm about the channel being only for
>> development
>> > talk, things should remain mostly as they are now.
>> >
>> > In any community, there's inevitably going to be idle talk, offtopic
>> > conversations, etc. If you only have ONE place to talk in, all those
>> thigns
>> > are going to be mixed in with actual dev talk, but if you have clear
>> rooms
>> > set for each thing, the majority of people will be happy to leave all
>> the
>> > offtopic talk to the main channel, and dev talk to the dev channel.
>> >
>> > It works for plenty other projects and communities so there's no reason
>> to
>> > be pessimistic and think that "our idiots are worse". It's simply not
>> true.
>> >
>> > I vote for trying, and we can always put back the +m if things get out
>> of
>> > hand.
>> >
>> > On 24 March 2017 at 16:13, Hermès BÉLUSCA-MAÏTO <hermes.belu...@sfr.fr>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I don’t approve the idea. The fact is that if the devs quit originally
>> >> #reactos, it’s because it was generally too noisy, etc… . If we remove
>> the
>> >> moderation irc bit in #reactos-dev, you may expect the same phenomenon
>> to
>> >> occur in #reactos-dev too.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> De : Ros-dev [mailto:ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org] De la part de David
>> >> Quintana (gigaherz)
>> >> Envoyé : vendredi 24 mars 2017 11:35
>> >> À : ReactOS Development List
>> >> Objet : Re: [ros-dev] Opening up #reactos-dev to the public
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I approve the idea.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 24 March 2017 at 11:21, Colin Finck <co...@reactos.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi all!
>> >>
>> >> As you all know, our #reactos-dev IRC channel has been a moderated IRC
>> >> channel for decades, and only operators (devs) and voiced people can
>> >> talk. While we always tried to keep discussions dev-related there, no
>> >> topic has ever been enforced on #reactos. The result is that I see a
>> >> notable number of developers only on #reactos-dev these days.
>> >>
>> >> This is a pretty bad situation! Emerging developers hardly have a way
>> to
>> >> interact with all existing devs on IRC. Often enough, legitimate
>> >> questions from them remain unanswered on #reactos. Moreover, we don't
>> >> maintain the list of voiced people thoroughly, so even some
>> contributors
>> >> have to ask for temporary voice on #reactos-dev.
>> >>
>> >> Keep in mind that we're currently in the GSoC phase where students
>> shall
>> >> submit their proposals and get in touch with the developers.
>> >> How are they going to do this on IRC if #reactos-dev continues to be an
>> >> exclusive club?
>> >>
>> >> Because of these reasons, I'm proposing to remove the moderation bit on
>> >> #reactos-dev and let everybody talk there.
>> >> Its development topic should be enforced though! As soon as people get
>> >> too off-topic, they should be directed to #reactos and kicked if
>> nothing
>> >> else helps. Given that all devs are already operators on #reactos-dev,
>> >> it's fully in their hands.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> Colin
>> >>
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