Right, show me the code. AKA we accept patches Alexander. Regarding #reactos-dev, I'm afraid that if we open it to everyone we will see the endless noise from jira to flood #reactos-dev.
ReactOS Development List <ros-dev@reactos.org> wrote on Sat, March 25th, 2017, 2:01 PM: > “Talk is cheap. Show me the code.” ― Linus Torvalds > > > Speed of development of ReactOS is really slow. Developers do not care even > about reports in JIRA. This discussion is sensles and useless because > regardless of the it's result nothing will be better in ReactOS. > > > > > > > 25.03.2017, 15:52, "Robert Naumann" <gonzo...@gmail.com>: > There should simply be more devs in #reactos. Some are, but many are not. > Everyone of us is able to give voice to newbies and direct dev related > conversations to the dev channel. When we open this chan to the public we > could instead remove it and do everything via #reactos. > Am 25.03.2017 13:33 schrieb "David Quintana (gigaherz)" > <gigah...@gmail.com>:I don't see any usefulness in a #reactos-gsoc. It would > isolate the gsoc people, rather than help them integrate into the team. > Remember Google isn't just giving projects some free labor, the goal is to > introduce new devs into the communities with the idea of them remaining in > those communities. So being in the main channels should be part of the goal > of gsoc. > > On 25 March 2017 at 08:53, Michael Fritscher <mich...@fritscher.net> > wrote:Too many chans will clutter it, in the end the devs will have to join 10 > chans. The chans aren't that high-traffic ones. > > I think we should yust try to do a -m and see what happens. > > Yes, that's a better idea. #reactos-gsoc > > > > On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 6:53 PM, Alex Ionescu <ion...@videotron.ca> wrote: > > > >> I don't agree. Maintain the auto-voice lists and get someone in charge > >> of > >> operations, like I used to be for many years on IRC. > >> > >> Instead, why not create a #reactos-gsoc or something? > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Alex Ionescu > >> > >> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Mark Jansen <learn0more+...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> We can always try it out? > >>> If it doesnt work, restoring it is a simple as setting a flag on the > >>> channel. > >>> > >>> On 24 March 2017 at 16:31, David Quintana (gigaherz) > >>> <gigah...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > I disagree -- if we can be firm about the channel being only for > >>> development > >>> > talk, things should remain mostly as they are now. > >>> > > >>> > In any community, there's inevitably going to be idle talk, offtopic > >>> > conversations, etc. If you only have ONE place to talk in, all those > >>> thigns > >>> > are going to be mixed in with actual dev talk, but if you have clear > >>> rooms > >>> > set for each thing, the majority of people will be happy to leave all > >>> the > >>> > offtopic talk to the main channel, and dev talk to the dev channel. > >>> > > >>> > It works for plenty other projects and communities so there's no > >>> reason > >>> to > >>> > be pessimistic and think that "our idiots are worse". It's simply not > >>> true. > >>> > > >>> > I vote for trying, and we can always put back the +m if things get > >>> out > >>> of > >>> > hand. > >>> > > > >>> > On 24 March 2017 at 16:13, Hermès BÉLUSCA-MAà TO > >>> <hermes.belu...@sfr.fr> > >>> > wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> I don’t approve the idea. The fact is that if the devs quit > >>> originally > >>> >> #reactos, it’s because it was generally too noisy, etc… . If we > >>> remove > >>> the > >>> >> moderation irc bit in #reactos-dev, you may expect the same > >>> phenomenon > >>> to > >>> >> occur in #reactos-dev too. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> De : Ros-dev [mailto:ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org] De la part de > >>> David > >>> >> Quintana (gigaherz) > >>> >> Envoyé : vendredi 24 mars 2017 11:35 > >>> >> À : ReactOS Development List>>> >> Objet : Re: [ros-dev] Opening up > >>> >> #reactos-dev to the public > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> I approve the idea. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> On 24 March 2017 at 11:21, Colin Finck <co...@reactos.org> wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> Hi all! > >>> >> > >>> >> As you all know, our #reactos-dev IRC channel has been a moderated > >>> IRC > >>> >> channel for decades, and only operators (devs) and voiced people can > >>> >> talk. While we always tried to keep discussions dev-related there, > >>> no > >>> >> topic has ever been enforced on #reactos. The result is that I see a > >>> >> notable number of developers only on #reactos-dev these days. > >>> >> > >>> >> This is a pretty bad situation! Emerging developers hardly have a > >>> way > >>> to > >>> >> interact with all existing devs on IRC. Often enough, legitimate > >>> >> questions from them remain unanswered on #reactos. Moreover, we > >>> don't > >>> >> maintain the list of voiced people thoroughly, so even some > >>> contributors > >>> >> have to ask for temporary voice on #reactos-dev. > >>> >> > >>> >> Keep in mind that we're currently in the GSoC phase where students > >>> shall > >>> >> submit their proposals and get in touch with the developers. > >>> >> How are they going to do this on IRC if #reactos-dev continues to be > >>> an > >>> >> exclusive club? > >>> >> > >>> >> Because of these reasons, I'm proposing to remove the moderation bit > >>> on > >>> >> #reactos-dev and let everybody talk there. > >>> >> Its development topic should be enforced though! As soon as people > >>> get > >>> >> too off-topic, they should be directed to #reactos and kicked if > >>> nothing > >>> >> else helps. 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